• @Cornelius_Wangenheim
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    1741 month ago
    1. No one’s hiring you unless you have an OSCP or similar certification.
    2. A real pen test will set off all kinds of alarms.
    3. You don’t get paid until you deliver a 100+ page report detailing what you did and your findings.
    • Echo Dot
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      361 month ago

      You hope it’ll set off alarms. Sometimes it doesn’t, mostly because they don’t have monitoring setup.

      • @Cornelius_Wangenheim
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        271 month ago

        Pen tests aren’t cheap. Even basic ones are ~$20k. There’s only 2 types of companies that bother with them: ones that care about cybersecurity and ones that have to do it for compliance (PCI/CMMC/etc). Both will have some kind of IDS and a SIEM.

      • @[email protected]
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        131 month ago

        Or because you hacked into the wrong company. This has happened multiple times.

        • Echo Dot
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          21 month ago

          That’s what happens when you do off the book stuff on company time. Got to organize yourself better.

          • @[email protected]
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            31 month ago

            I’ve even heard stories of physical pen testers entering the wrong company. Oops.

    • @ameancow
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      241 month ago

      You’re implying that people who post on 4-chan have no clue how the real world works and no idea what business is like and how people make money!

    • Captain Howdy
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      211 month ago
      1. Most folks dgaf about certs, and I agree with them. Certs are BS. I only have certs because employers paid for them and in tech (especially security) there’s a LOT of free time if you know what you’re doing. Certs only prove you can pass a test.

      2. Bold of you to assume most companies have intrusion detection systems and that their monitoring isn’t muted half the time.

      3. Findings come from an automated report generated by a scanner that does literally all the work.

      OP post is really not that far off. It’s an easy gig.

      Source: I’ve worked on both sides.

      • @[email protected]
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        131 month ago

        Uh, certs are a huge deal in cyber security. Absolutely useless in most fields, but cybersecurity is not one of them.

      • @[email protected]
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        91 month ago

        So pen testing is a scam? I knew it! Opening all my ports right now.

        • @[email protected]
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          41 month ago

          oh yeah I probably should close those unused ports I’ve had open since 2020…