• @Avatar_of_Self
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    1 month ago

    Where I live not only do we get put on hold but sometimes they don’t answer (not enough dispatchers) and response time (except for shop lifters which is quick response) is about 4.5 hours for serious stuff and 72 hours, if they do show up according to my own experience and those I know in the community.

    Their budget is right over $4 Billion/year. The area I live in gives a boost of around $60 mil/year on top for expanded help so we don’t have to have our own city PD.

    Also I wanted to add it’s the Sheriff, so we do contribute to the 4 bill/year via county tax like everyone else and are in their jurisdiction already.

    Fantastic return on investment.

    • Dyskolos
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      11 month ago

      Wtf? You’re us-american, right? 4.5hrs? Why even call at all. Makes it totally useless.

      At one store of mine, robberies were regular. I had an automatic alarm,which called for cops and they were there not 3 minutes later. Granted their station was just 3 minutes away, but still. Robbers usually managed to find a general direction for what they wanted by that time. But I always had pristine new windows thanks to that 😁

      4.5hrs…i could’ve gone there myself. After watching a movie, meeting some friends, doing the taxes and…

      • @RubberElectrons
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        11 month ago

        There’s a thread of legitimacy to “defending oneself and their property” in the US sure to how poor response times are, but honestly, it’s just stuff. Why risk killing someone or getting killed?

        The distinctly inept class-traitors known as cops are understood to really only be there to file paperwork for insurance. Lock your good stuff up in a real safe with time controls.

        • Dyskolos
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          21 month ago

          Man…your cops are so different from ours. Maybe because it’s a real job here with requirements, mental and physical assesment, and even years long training. The assclowns won’t even survive day one of the assessments.

          But also yeah, I wouldn’t risk self-defense either (if it’d be allowed). Stuff can be replaced. I just didn’t think of that coz noone carries guns here except cops. And maybe some mobsters. You just call the cops and piss off.

          • @RubberElectrons
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            11 month ago

            I’m not sure what changed, but NYPD et al have always been at least mildly corrupt. I wonder what changed that got them to forget to be honorable with the people they’re supposed to help.

            Like you said, I also doubt many could handle a day in another country.

            • Dyskolos
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              21 month ago

              I wouldn’t wonder about corruption. Bad pay, hard economy and sluggish selection of cops lead to that. That is so sad, especially for a country that loves to see itself as civilization’s tip of the spear.

              No wonder people have so much hate for cops

              • @RubberElectrons
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                11 month ago

                Nah those guys are getting 90k+ per year, almost best employee benefits in the city (after our sanitation guys), and a few other things.

                Sluggish selection is a good question. If you look at a video of this incident, the Swedish cops on vacation broke up the brawl professionally and nobody got hurt.

                Then and now, multiple people I’ve spoken with have expressed sincere doubt NYPD would have treated them as cleanly.

                • Dyskolos
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                  21 month ago

                  90k? That’s quite a lot (I guess). Surely more than I would’ve expected. Why the good pay? Aren’t they also greatly insured as gov employees?

                  Hm, yes. I’m no Swedish but those are the kind of cops I know. Professional de-escalizers, not trigger-happy lunatics with a short fuse.