• @iopq
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    11 month ago

    There is not enough wealth in Argentina to distribute to all the poor people. You need to grow the economy first. But if you print a lot of money and spend it, you get inflation.

    So Milei is first getting spending and inflation in order which is cratering the economy. But at least it solves the budget and inflation problem.

    • Flying Squid
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      11 month ago

      …at the cost of human lives. Why does that not concern you?

      • @iopq
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        1 month ago

        Let me guess what you said about 10% inflation in the US

        Now imagine 200%

        • Flying Squid
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          01 month ago

          Please do guess. But not before answering my question.

          • @iopq
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            31 month ago

            The inflation concerns me more than the slight contraction in the economy. If the country is stable and the currency is stable, that will encourage investment and help people in the long term.

            Argentina has tried redistributive policies and it has caused huge problems for the economy. The man got elected promising to fix the inflation and he already did it.

            https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/argentina-inflation-dips-locals-dare-hope-worst-is-over-2024-12-11/

            He can’t just go back on his election promise

            • Flying Squid
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              1 month ago

              You still didn’t answer my question.

              60% poverty is not a “slight contraction in the economy.”

              Edit: You libertarians go ahead and keep downvoting me. Milei is killing people.

              • @HappycamperNZ
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                41 month ago

                Not the person your debating with, and normally I agree with the famous Mr Squid.

                In this case I disagree - im not fully knowledgeable on Argentina specifically, just economic application. The problem with inflation is that it harms your entire population - and its horrific when its out of control. 60% poverty (don’t know if this is total, increase or increases since these measures came out, very different discussions) is easily obtainable when a significant amount of your population are already close to the poverty line and even a small change comes into effect.

                Regarding the cost of human lives, and assuming he’s not Trump levels of econ knowledge, its a balance between putting this 60% in poverty now to get a handle on inflation now, or that 60% in poverty due to inflation indefinitely until you put them and more people in poverty.

                Anything that increases government spending, including social support services, infrastructure spending, unemployment support would increase GDP and work directly against disinflation measures.

                Its cold, it sucks, but the logic and theory are there. Sometimes the best thing you can do is cause the least long term harm.

                • Flying Squid
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                  01 month ago

                  As I keep saying, poverty has increased by 20% since Milei implemented these measures. If people have to starve to death in order to make inflation go down, how can you say that’s worth it the way it’s being done?

                  • @HappycamperNZ
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                    21 month ago

                    Because those will end up in poverty regardless - either due to disinflation measures or due to inflation when we do nothing.

                    Big difference with the disinflation measures is that these an end point.