Jimmy Donaldson — AKA “MrBeast” — has taken YouTube by storm, racking up more than 330 million subscribers with his cleverly edited videos of stunts ranging from performative philanthropy to Fear Factor-esque challenges. He’s also launched a burger chain, a chocolate and snack brand, and is currently working on a reality competition series with Amazon. At just 26 years old, MrBeast has built a brand valuated at $1.5 billion.

“Should we be outraged by his existence?,” asks Ryan Broderick, creator of the newsletter Garbage Day and host of the new podcast Panic World. In this episode, Ryan tells Ben and Amory all about the awkward past, the controversial present, and the uncertain future of MrBeast.