Teachers will be forced to tell parents that their child is questioning their gender even if the young person objects under new guidance for schools in England, the equalities minister has indicated.
Teachers will be forced to tell parents that their child is questioning their gender even if the young person objects under new guidance for schools in England, the equalities minister has indicated.
I mean I’m reading the same thing they did and it’s not that unfavourable an interpretation of what you said.
If anything this comment only doubles down on it. You’ve already assumed the kids are going to be homeless, rather than the point I was making that there are times where this law will 100% conflict with a teacher’s safe-guarding duty, yet they will be forced by law to endanger the child anyway.
I didn’t assume that, the person I was replying to gave me that scenario.
Gotta read the chain homie.
I am the guy you were replying when you said that “homie”
I gave you that question. It wasn’t a scenario where a child is already homeless, it was that the implications of this law would drive children in that situation into homelessness.
Your reply to that there was thrte should be programs to help them, which you elaborate to mean the homeless. You’ve told me you’re so attached to this idea that you’ve already discounted the option of withholding this information for the sake of a child’s safety and wellbeing, which tells me enough about what you think.
I responded to this statement.
You’re telling me that this statement doesn’t mention children losing access to their homes?
Come on, man.
You should learn to read your own words. As a direct reply to that person, you said:
You literally say in this comment that what you were saying to me is that “we should invest in professional to help out the homeless”.
Tell me in what universe that doesn’t interprete as you having already made the decision in your head that you would rather them be homeless than let a teacher have discretion of a safeguarding agent.
You said the kids will be homeless.
I responded saying that there should be programs for that.
I used your scenario, and responded to it. That’s how conversations work.
You’re trolling or literally haven’t read a word I typed. If you didn’t understand that I literally wrote that there should be social programs to help homeless youth, you seriously need some reading help.
The scenario I made is that there are kids who could be made homeless via this law.
I was heavily implying that it is a dangerous downstream ramification of that law, and is a reason to not have a law like that which forces universal non-discretion.
Rather than say something like “oh right, you might be onto something there, maybe we shouldn’t enact laws that will potentially render children homeless”
You basically said “whelp, they’re going to be homeless, we should invest in programs that help the homeless”
You and you alone are the one who advanced that to them already being homeless.
This is why I said you were so attached to that idea that you’d already discounted the idea of safeguarding and discretion to prevent them from being homeless, because you did, possibly without even realising it.
It isn’t me reading too deep or not enough, it’s literally the first thing you said.
Again, read your own words, or at the very least read mine FFS.
I responded that we should improve programs to help the youth.
I understand the problem you’re presenting, because I have empathy. You not understanding that it’s severely encroaching the the relationship between teachers and parents is because you don’t have empathy. I understand your side and have a different way of wanting to deal with it that avoids the problems I see with government employees having side secrets with my 8 year old.
You said kids might be homeless. I responded with a way to deal with it. Once again, that’s how conversations go.
Well that’s certainly an accusation.
Are you sure about that, as you don’t seem to empathise with the idea that most children do not cope well with losing their home, and that not losing their home is the ideal solution.
It’s not about just having a “side secret”. It’s about rendering a safe space where children don’t feel afraid of being who they are, when they don’t have that option at home.
Bare in mind that this isn’t even about direct disclosures. Every teacher would be obligated to report, so the child even acknowledging that fact anywhere in the school could be enough.
It makes it much easier for the teachers/school to offer resources to that child when that child isn’t actively afraid of disclosing that information.
Even in the majority of situations where the parents aren’t potentially abusive, it could even just allow the child to not be forcibly ousted until they’re ready or more certain of their mindset.
Key word in that was might.
In your world you dealt with it by rendering them homeless then picking up the pieces afterwards. That’s the worst outcome, at least in my mind.