• @[email protected]
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    19 days ago

    This is false. Only Israel does not want a two state solution. Even Hamas accepted it in 2017.

    This is what people mean with enlightened centrism. There are no two sides preventing peace. There is only Israel preventing peace.

    • @TankovayaDiviziya
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      19 days ago

      The 2017 Hamas charter is openly available on the Internet, and it says it still doesn’t recognise Israel as a state and strive for “complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea.” This is not really a two-state solution. Two states recognise each other’s right to exist if this is indeed a two state solution.

      • @[email protected]
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        1019 days ago

        Of course Hamas is not stupid like the PA. They will not recognize Israel unless Israel agrees to a two state solution.

        Your arguments are the most generic Hasbara so I am not assuming you are speaking in good faith.

        • @TankovayaDiviziya
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          519 days ago

          Hamas stated “from the river to the sea” in that charter you yourself mentioned. That could not be any more ambiguous.

          • @[email protected]
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            319 days ago

            They’ve pretty explicitly been aiming for a Palestinian state in the territories occupied since 1967. And not just recently, proposals for a permanent ceasefire (which sets the first steps towards recognition and normalization of relations) with Israel under these conditions go back to 1999. Conveniently, both Israel and the US didn’t find it necessary to respond.

                • @TankovayaDiviziya
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                  19 days ago

                  From the article you linked:

                  without recognising the statehood of Israel,

                  Exactly the point. Both sides need to recognise each other. This isn’t a sports competition. It doesn’t require a PhD to figure that one out.

    • @TheFonz
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      19 days ago

      I think we can track down several times two state option was on the table, starting as early as 68

        • @TheFonz
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          What is the benefit from lying? I don’t get it. This is all basic info.

          The two-state solution is supported by many countries, and the Palestinian Authority. Israel currently does not support the idea, though it has in the past. The first proposal for separate Jewish and Arab states in the territory was made by the British Peel Commission report in 1937.

          It was also on the table at Camp David.

          • goferking (he/him)
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            319 days ago

            How does that prove they’re lying about Israel currently not supporting it?

            Right now they’re wanting to just take the land after eliminating the people who lived there

            • @TheFonz
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              219 days ago

              Because I said it was on the table several times in the past. And they wrote:

              Very cool and false

              ???

              • goferking (he/him)
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                018 days ago

                Yes because they’ve (Israel) always negotiated in good faith. Even the camp David accords was a 2 state solution in name only

                • @TheFonz
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                  018 days ago

                  Well, there you have it. The most unproductive statements as usual. If you don’t know the specifics, why comment? Why not discuss the actual policies or the historical details? Why live in the realm of memes and buzzwords? Oh wait… I know why

                  • goferking (he/him)
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                    018 days ago

                    You really want to discuss the specifics and history of just the versions that make Israel look good?

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            19 days ago

            Ok now explain why Israel does not accept the deal since Hamas does accept it.

            I do not have to read any history to disprove your lies. I can open the news right now.