• @Droggelbecher
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    1320 days ago

    Somewhat controversial in my irl circle: I’m lib left and I LOVE traditions. Not all of them, but who does? This is one example of a tradition I enjoy.

    • @HonoraryMancunian
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      520 days ago

      Tradition isn’t inherently bad! What does your circle have to say about it?

      • @Droggelbecher
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        519 days ago

        Just the odd instance of eg calling traditional clothing cringe or saying ‘what are you, a conservative?’ when I talk about traditions I like. Or asking me not to play traditional music (even if there’s no lyrics, so it can’t be that the lyrics are problematic).

        • @[email protected]
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          619 days ago

          Tradition is bad if it’s harmful or if you’re pressured to do it just because people used to do it.

          But these just sound like you’re enjoying stuff? It sounds like their tradition is shitting on people’s fun.

          • @Droggelbecher
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            319 days ago

            100% agree. You do need to use your judgment somewhat. Traditions are often used to marginalize and exclude groups of people. Some are manipulative. Some are just pointless. But if you use some critical thinking skills, why not enjoy yourself? But the latter is frowned upon in some circles because of the former.

    • @[email protected]
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      19 days ago

      Traditions are great. It feels good to feel included and share in ones culture. It makes you bond with your closed ones and gives you a sense of community.

      What’s not great is the mindless consumerism of Christmas and the barbaric activities like killing lots of animals out of tradition. I hate traditions like everyone killing huge fatten up turkeys which often end up going to waste because everyone cooks too much during the holidays. And I hate bull fights. Those are bad traditions.

      • @Droggelbecher
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        319 days ago

        Good traditions! I’m vegan, which does exclude you from a lot of traditions. Or more accurately, it makes you see the cruelty of some traditions, and reject them because of it. Same with being anti capitalist and, as a consequence, anti consumerist. That last one alienates me from a bunch of nerd culture, too.

        • @[email protected]
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          319 days ago

          Oh man, we’re the same. Also vegan here and anti consumerist. I’m somehow lucky that my partner accepted to not exchange gifts for Christmas, and my family has adapted to include vegan dishes for Christmas. But coming from a meat eating culture, I’ve let go a lot of traditions behind. On top of that, I’m atheist from a religious country, and queer. Sometimes it can feel very alienating, but luckily I’ve found my own chosen family.