What I am not surprised about, at all, is that all the “don’t vote for her” people like yourself (apparently) are now claiming they are not in any way responsible for a fascist getting elected. It’s everyone else’s fault, but the person who literally said to not vote for the only other option than the fascist shares none of the blame.
And if that isn’t you, you’re defending people who share the blame. Which, I would say, falls into the camp of ‘pathetic’ as well.
Nah man, fascism is already here. If you, me, and the rest of the Democrats were willing to tolerate a genocide to keep a system enabling a genocide, then it can’t be denied. We weren’t delaying fascism, we just weren’t the current target of it and because of that, you couldn’t see it. We’re all fucked but it’s because of these exact attitudes that allowed dehumanization to be accepted.
What, no? Well, as much as you’re saying that Palestinians deserve to be victims of a genocide to protect LGBTQ people. Brown people are already being genocided btw.
Oh come on, Harris lost by a larger margin of all the Arab American voters combined. It’s foolish to blame her losing on this one community (who voted for her anyway). The community is suffering and you decide to add insult to this injury, as if we somehow were responsible and not the 70 million Trump voters.
Interesting how you decided I was talking about Muslim-Americans in one post and Arab-Americans in another post even though I was talking about neither group.
Also interesting how you seem to think Arab = Muslim and Muslim = Arab.
Nope. You said “people like yourself” and I was responding to that. You have no idea whether I’m Arab or not, and you may have inferred I’m Muslim because of my name or posting history, but you’re the one treating the groups as the same for this topic.
The DNC did that by running shit candidates back to back to back who either couldn’t defeat a blatant, moronic fascist or just barely beat him by the skin of their teeth with the aid of a massive pandemic and economic turmoil fresh in everyone’s mind. They sold out the whole country in favor of maintaining the status quo for their corporate masters and major donors.
Not at all. It’s frankly telling that you view this as some sort of zero-sum game, that we must sell out one minority or another. We all succeed or fail together; it’s why Muslim-Americans and LGBT groups have been working together politically for over 20 years. Despite that, it was still shocking to see how many LGBT people immediately tried to abandon Muslim voters because they thought it could help Biden/Harris win in swing states, and still bash them even now after the election. (Even though anti-trans ads played a much bigger role) You’re doing what you criticize others for even here and now.
Hillary already tried this in 2016, throwing Muslim Americans and Arab Americans under the bus in order to boost her votes among conservatives and Republican voters. It failed, and Biden/Harris decided to try it again.
I will always condescend to bigots and fascists, and I’m proud to do it. If we don’t “chase” them, they’ll win permanently.
I guess it’s easier to just roll over and pretend the biggest fascist of all is acceptable. That way you don’t have to admit that you made a bad decision, and you can spend the next four years savoring your moral victory and calling people “pathetic”. You’re awesome.
They just do not care about other people, so the suffering of one minority or another isn’t important to them.
Frankly, they were more irritated that these minority groups exist in the first place since they get in the way of whatever political goal they have. It’s like the movie Don’t Look Up, where the president says that this asteroid or comet or whatever is so inconvenient for her because she was going to spend the summer having a political fight over Supreme Court nominations and can’t they just push this extinction-level-event crisis back to another time, like the fall or after the midterms?
It would seem that they are considerably less important than virtue signaling to Muslims for many voters, yes.
Ah so we all need to respect your views, but when it comes to not wanting to support genocide label it virtue signaling.
Liberals are so pathetic. I’m sure that condescending everyone you meet will win you tons of votes.
You all spend so much time chasing fascist voters and then act so surprised when the fascists are suddenly legitimized by society.
What I am not surprised about, at all, is that all the “don’t vote for her” people like yourself (apparently) are now claiming they are not in any way responsible for a fascist getting elected. It’s everyone else’s fault, but the person who literally said to not vote for the only other option than the fascist shares none of the blame.
And if that isn’t you, you’re defending people who share the blame. Which, I would say, falls into the camp of ‘pathetic’ as well.
Nah man, fascism is already here. If you, me, and the rest of the Democrats were willing to tolerate a genocide to keep a system enabling a genocide, then it can’t be denied. We weren’t delaying fascism, we just weren’t the current target of it and because of that, you couldn’t see it. We’re all fucked but it’s because of these exact attitudes that allowed dehumanization to be accepted.
I’m sorry… did you just suggest that queer and brown people deserve to be victims of a genocide because of Democrats?
What, no? Well, as much as you’re saying that Palestinians deserve to be victims of a genocide to protect LGBTQ people. Brown people are already being genocided btw.
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Oh come on, Harris lost by a larger margin of all the Arab American voters combined. It’s foolish to blame her losing on this one community (who voted for her anyway). The community is suffering and you decide to add insult to this injury, as if we somehow were responsible and not the 70 million Trump voters.
Interesting how you decided I was talking about Muslim-Americans in one post and Arab-Americans in another post even though I was talking about neither group.
Also interesting how you seem to think Arab = Muslim and Muslim = Arab.
Nope. You said “people like yourself” and I was responding to that. You have no idea whether I’m Arab or not, and you may have inferred I’m Muslim because of my name or posting history, but you’re the one treating the groups as the same for this topic.
Yet again, I’m still not talking about Muslim-Americans or Arab-Americans. So no, no I’m not. Because neither group is who I was talking about.
I know you want me to be talking about them, but I’m still not.
Not sure what else you’d call selling out queer folk to feel good about yourself.
The DNC did that by running shit candidates back to back to back who either couldn’t defeat a blatant, moronic fascist or just barely beat him by the skin of their teeth with the aid of a massive pandemic and economic turmoil fresh in everyone’s mind. They sold out the whole country in favor of maintaining the status quo for their corporate masters and major donors.
Not at all. It’s frankly telling that you view this as some sort of zero-sum game, that we must sell out one minority or another. We all succeed or fail together; it’s why Muslim-Americans and LGBT groups have been working together politically for over 20 years. Despite that, it was still shocking to see how many LGBT people immediately tried to abandon Muslim voters because they thought it could help Biden/Harris win in swing states, and still bash them even now after the election. (Even though anti-trans ads played a much bigger role) You’re doing what you criticize others for even here and now.
Hillary already tried this in 2016, throwing Muslim Americans and Arab Americans under the bus in order to boost her votes among conservatives and Republican voters. It failed, and Biden/Harris decided to try it again.
I will always condescend to bigots and fascists, and I’m proud to do it. If we don’t “chase” them, they’ll win permanently.
I guess it’s easier to just roll over and pretend the biggest fascist of all is acceptable. That way you don’t have to admit that you made a bad decision, and you can spend the next four years savoring your moral victory and calling people “pathetic”. You’re awesome.
They just do not care about other people, so the suffering of one minority or another isn’t important to them.
Frankly, they were more irritated that these minority groups exist in the first place since they get in the way of whatever political goal they have. It’s like the movie Don’t Look Up, where the president says that this asteroid or comet or whatever is so inconvenient for her because she was going to spend the summer having a political fight over Supreme Court nominations and can’t they just push this extinction-level-event crisis back to another time, like the fall or after the midterms?