I got a computer science degree because I got into computers as a kid and I was good with them. When I apply for a job it feels like like I’m competing with half the planet. It took 2 years to get the current job I have at an MSP and I’ve been applying for new jobs for a year now. I can count the times I’ve been contacted by recruiters over the past year on one hand. There’s plenty more in my boat. If we’d known we probably would have had a different major.
I did labor before landing a job with an MSP by the way. I’m in my early 30s with back, neck, and hand problems now and pain that radiates into my hips and legs. You don’t get out of labor jobs unscathed.
IT is a weirdly hard field to break into these days, and climbing the ladder can be difficult as employers generally don’t want to take a risk on someone who hasn’t worked in helpdesk/sysadmin/security/etc. before. Once you get your first role with the job title you want it’s 20 times easier to get your second one.
The job market also sucks right now. 1-3 years ago it was amazing and I landed interviews I should not have landed simply because places couldn’t get candidates, but now I’ve been laid off and spent 3 months and about 40 applications and ultimately took the first offer I got (it was also the second place to call me to interview)
Computer science is a massive world. It’s true that even the computer world is saturated. All of India is competing with you. But keep in mind those are commodity roles that are easy to outsource and fill. There are plenty of roles like cyber security and many others that they can’t or won’t outsource. You may just be in the wrong sector.
As for labor jobs I get it. They suck. But the world needs laborers and LOTS of them pay very very well.
So many republicans complain immigrants are stealing our jobs except these are all labor jobs that Americans don’t want, and now they want to kick them out of the country so no one is doing those jobs at all.
I really don’t know what else to tell people. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. People are quick to blame billionaires and while they are right to do so they are only just one of the many variables at play.
The biggest variable at play is that Americans aren’t aligning to the job market.
Honestly, I would love to get into security. Too bad all the hiring managers pulled the ladder up. No one is willing to teach or train anymore even though they all had the ability to learn on the job. I tried getting into security, programming, and even sys admin positions, but they all require a ridiculous amount of experience for entry level. Even the internships I applied to for programming expected me to create fully functional programs for the interview. I have more than enough knowledge and experience for a beginning sys admin job. Even though my title is help desk we are extremely understaffed so I handle high level stuff everyday. I don’t even get a response when I apply to those positions.
Also, it’s true labor jobs pay well, but they have inconsistent hours and destroy your body. Our body’s aren’t designed for constant tool use. Vibration and constantly gripping things wrecks your hands. Lifting and carrying things is hard on your back and joints. Most labor jobs are 1099 positions as well so it doesn’t matter if you make less than a full time minimum wage position would in a year, you’ll still be expected to pay back over 30 percent of your wages in taxes. That’s fine if you own a company, but it shouldn’t be allowed for a general laboror.
I got a computer science degree because I got into computers as a kid and I was good with them. When I apply for a job it feels like like I’m competing with half the planet. It took 2 years to get the current job I have at an MSP and I’ve been applying for new jobs for a year now. I can count the times I’ve been contacted by recruiters over the past year on one hand. There’s plenty more in my boat. If we’d known we probably would have had a different major.
I did labor before landing a job with an MSP by the way. I’m in my early 30s with back, neck, and hand problems now and pain that radiates into my hips and legs. You don’t get out of labor jobs unscathed.
IT is a weirdly hard field to break into these days, and climbing the ladder can be difficult as employers generally don’t want to take a risk on someone who hasn’t worked in helpdesk/sysadmin/security/etc. before. Once you get your first role with the job title you want it’s 20 times easier to get your second one.
The job market also sucks right now. 1-3 years ago it was amazing and I landed interviews I should not have landed simply because places couldn’t get candidates, but now I’ve been laid off and spent 3 months and about 40 applications and ultimately took the first offer I got (it was also the second place to call me to interview)
Computer science is a massive world. It’s true that even the computer world is saturated. All of India is competing with you. But keep in mind those are commodity roles that are easy to outsource and fill. There are plenty of roles like cyber security and many others that they can’t or won’t outsource. You may just be in the wrong sector.
As for labor jobs I get it. They suck. But the world needs laborers and LOTS of them pay very very well.
So many republicans complain immigrants are stealing our jobs except these are all labor jobs that Americans don’t want, and now they want to kick them out of the country so no one is doing those jobs at all.
I really don’t know what else to tell people. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. People are quick to blame billionaires and while they are right to do so they are only just one of the many variables at play.
The biggest variable at play is that Americans aren’t aligning to the job market.
Honestly, I would love to get into security. Too bad all the hiring managers pulled the ladder up. No one is willing to teach or train anymore even though they all had the ability to learn on the job. I tried getting into security, programming, and even sys admin positions, but they all require a ridiculous amount of experience for entry level. Even the internships I applied to for programming expected me to create fully functional programs for the interview. I have more than enough knowledge and experience for a beginning sys admin job. Even though my title is help desk we are extremely understaffed so I handle high level stuff everyday. I don’t even get a response when I apply to those positions.
Also, it’s true labor jobs pay well, but they have inconsistent hours and destroy your body. Our body’s aren’t designed for constant tool use. Vibration and constantly gripping things wrecks your hands. Lifting and carrying things is hard on your back and joints. Most labor jobs are 1099 positions as well so it doesn’t matter if you make less than a full time minimum wage position would in a year, you’ll still be expected to pay back over 30 percent of your wages in taxes. That’s fine if you own a company, but it shouldn’t be allowed for a general laboror.