Hi, I’m just starting out with self hosting and I am currently working on a project meant to serve a small town that I live in. What I would like to do is host a small social media site from a Rapsberry Pi 5. I’m not expecting to have a lot of people using it so I’m not pressured about the hardware requirements at this point in time.

I have a few questions before I go any further.

  1. Is it possible to set up a PieFed instance as text only? I’m not interested in moderating images or videos. Also, I’m also running this from a residential connection so I don’t want to affect my home traffic. All aspects of this project are meant to be as minimal as possible to access more people.

  2. My ISP blocks ports. I intend to call them soon and talk to them about unblocking ports. If I am unable to do that, my backup plan to simply run an instance that is unfederated. It will act as a message board for my town. Can I set PieFed to a custom port for traffic? For example using piefed.domainname.com:8080 as the address for people to reach my server.

  3. Does the registration for new users require any SSL? I’m not entirely sure if that would be affected the same as federation without SSL.

  4. Would mail related services be affected by blocked ports? Would I be able to use another email address not associated with my domain name and PieFed instance?

Thanks for any help or information.

  • tatersOP
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    18 days ago

    Thanks for the information.

    I have a more questions about account registration/logins. If I understand correctly, they will require SSL.

    Before I ask anything, I just want to explain what it is I want to do so it’s easier to understand where I’m coming from.

    I want to start a seed library for my local community in my town. Unless Monsanto is targeting libraries for heritage seeds, I feel my risk is quite low.

    I would like a simple place for people to talk, share information and organize events. I’m also trying to create everything as independent from outside services as possible. The reason being that if any of these outside services experience an extended outage, I can physically move my Raspberry Pi box to central location with local internet/wifi (a library for example) and people will still be able to access all the information. Think of the pi box as becoming a digital community board. In this situation, federation is completely unimportant.

    If Cloudflare tunneling experiences issues or outages, can people still create and login to accounts locally? I’m going to assume any disruptions to any email services would also have an effect since that is used for registration as well.

    I prefer the Reddit/Lemmy/Piefed style and the markdown language works well with the other parts of my project. It’s not necessary and I may keep searching around for something that suites my use case better.

    I’ll most likely go ahead and try installing PieFed anyways with Cloudflare tunneling(or Let’s Encrypt if I don’t have to worry about blocked ports) and smtp2go. At the very least it’ll be an experience and a good place to start for my needs. I can move on from there if I feel the need to.

    Thanks again.

    • Rimu
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      7 days ago

      You can convert an instance to run locally over http without SSL, yes. All you need to do is change your SERVER_NAME environment variable to 127.0.0.1:5000 or whatever your IP address is. Federation won’t work but that’s ok for this scenario.

      I ran piefed.social without cloudflare for a few weeks, until the network activity caused by federation required better caching. I used Nginx to listen on port 443 (and to integrate with Lets Encrypt for SSL) and forward requests through to port 5000. This is the setup I documented in the “the hard way” installation instructions. Hopefully your ISP does not use CGNAT and you’ll simply be able to open a port on your router and send it through to your Pi.

      You don’t really really need email to work because you can create accounts manually through the admin area. Other than during registration the other other function email is used for is notifications about replies, new posts, etc which isn’t crucial.

      • tatersOP
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        17 days ago

        So after a few attempts, I was able to get PieFed working by accessing it through pi.MyDomainName.ca:5000

        I changed the SERVER_NAME in .env.docker to match the address above, but with my actual domain name. I also changed the port numbers from 8030:5000 to 5000:5000 in the compose.yaml

        I am running into an issue when I attempt to use the login information after the database initialization steps. I get the error “The CSRF tokens do not match.” above the username field on the login screen. I’m not sure what that means exactly.

        Other than that, using the docker was fairly straight forward except for some information I forgot to put in correctly the first couple times.

        • Rimu
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          17 days ago

          Congrats :)

          Does your SERVER_NAME include :5000 on the end? It probably should.

          CSRF is a type of hack where the attacker sends fake requests to a web app, from another domain. If PieFed thinks a normal form submission is coming from another domain then that makes me think your reverse proxy (Nginx? Caddy?) needs to add a header that tells PieFed what the domain of the original request was, before it was forwarded on to PieFed. Or are you not using a reverse proxy at all?

          • tatersOP
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            15 days ago

            I decided to start over today with a fresh OS install on my Pi. I did everything according to a checklist I started so nothing new has changed from my knowledge. I am getting errors trying to get past the

            export DOCKER_BUILDKIT=1  
            docker-compose up --build  
            

            part of the INSTALL.md for the docker instructions.

            I’ve saved a copy of my terminal but I’m not sure where a good spot to paste it is since it’s long. There were a lot of permission error 13’s so I tried

            sudo docker-compose up --build  
            

            and things started to download and proceed up until a point before another error showed up.

            Step 1/14 : FROM --platform=$BUILDPLATFORM python:3-alpine AS builder  
            failed to parse platform : "" is an invalid component of "": platform specifier component must match "^[A-Za-z0-9_-]+$": invalid argument  
            ERROR: Service 'celery' failed to build : Build failed  
            

            I’m quite confident I did nothing different this time so I don’t know what would be causing issues today. I can provide you with the outputs from my terminal if that will help you.

            • Rimu
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              15 days ago

              I have only tried building the docker image on my laptop, which has a different CPU architecture than a Pi. On your system the buildplatform variable is empty for some reason. You could try editing the file Dockerfile to have --platform=linux/arm64/v8 or maybe try removing it entirely so the line is just FROM python:3-alpine AS builder.

              Do you have a quite old version of docker? Try running docker version to check.

              • tatersOP
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                02 days ago

                You’re right, it was outdated. It seems I got mixed up after a fresh OS install on my Pi. I used APT to download and install docker which is extremely outdated. I now have proper repositories set up for both docker and nginx and everything is up to date. I didn’t need to make any changes to the dockerfile with the proper version.

                I’m having issues getting nginx, pyfedi.service and celery.service to work.

                Below are some snippets from my notes which should lay out all the steps I’ve taken, hopefully that will explain where I am currently at.

                <br>
                Steps from fresh OS Install:

                ## Apt software  
                sudo apt install ddclient gufw -y  
                
                # ddclient -> Account/Password/Domain Address  
                # gufw  
                
                ## Repository Software  
                # Docker -> Install-> https://docs.docker.com/engine/install/debian/  
                # nginx -> Install -> https://nginx.org/en/linux_packages.html#Debian  
                        -> sudo nano /etc/nginx/nginx.conf  
                           -> Add line -> include /etc/nginx/sites-enabled/DOMAINNAME;  
                        -> sudo nano /etc/nginx/sites-enabled/DOMAIN -> Copy DOMAINNAME reverse proxy settings from USB  
                        -> sudo nginx -t  
                        -> sudo service nginx restart  
                
                ## Docker Images  
                # PieFed -> Install: Easy/Docker -> https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/src/branch/main/INSTALL.md  
                  ->Edit file entries  
                    -env.docker  
                     -> SECRET_KEY='k3avh6fp'  
                     -> SERVER_NAME='pi.DOMAINNAME.ca:5000'  
                    -compose.yaml  
                     -> ports: - '8030:5000' -> - '5000:5000'  
                
                ## Running In Production  
                # Virtual Environment -> Gunicorn & Celery  
                  -> python -m venv ~/home/USERNAME/pyfedi/venv  
                  -> source ~/home/USERNAME/pyfedi/venv/bin/activate  
                  -> pip3 install gunicorn celery  
                  -> deactivate  
                # Copy file celery_worker.default.py -> celery_worker.py  
                  -> Change -> DATABASE_URL -> postgresql+psycopg2://piefed:piefed@db/piefed  
                  -> Change -> SERVER_NAME -> pi.DOMAINNAME.ca:5000  
                # Create Background Service Files -> Copy EACH from USB  
                  -> sudo nano /etc/systemd/system/pyfedi.service  
                  -> sudo nano /etc/systemd/system/celery.service  
                  -> sudo nano /etc/default/celeryd  
                # Enable/Start Background Services  
                  -> sudo systemctl enable pyfedi.service  
                  -> sudo systemctl enable celery.service  
                  -> sudo systemctl start pyfedi.service  
                  -> sudo systemctl start celery.service  
                

                <br>
                /etc/nginx/sites-enabled/DOMAIN file:

                upstream app_server {  
                    # fail_timeout=0 means we always retry an upstream even if it failed  
                    # to return a good HTTP response  
                
                    # for UNIX domain socket setups  
                    # server unix:/tmp/gunicorn.sock fail_timeout=0;  
                
                    # for a TCP configuration  
                    server 192.168.40.140:5000 fail_timeout=0;  
                    keepalive 4;  
                }  
                
                server {  
                    listen 5000;  
                    listen [::]:5000;  
                    server_name pi.DOMAINNAME.ca;  
                    root /home/USERNAME/pyfedi/app;  
                
                    keepalive_timeout 30;  
                    ssi off;  
                
                    location / {  
                        # Proxy all requests to Gunicorn  
                        proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-For $proxy_add_x_forwarded_for;  
                        proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-Proto $scheme;  
                        proxy_set_header Host $http_host;  
                        proxy_redirect off;  
                        proxy_http_version 1.1;  
                        proxy_set_header Connection "";  
                        proxy_pass http://app_server;  
                        ssi off;  
                    }  
                
                    # Serve static files directly with nginx  
                    location ~* /static/ {  
                        alias /home/USERNAME/pyfedi/app/static/;  
                        expires max;  
                        access_log off;  
                    }  
                
                }  
                
                • tatersOP
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                  12 days ago

                  To start, if I load PieFed first, then nginx I get an error like below:

                  nginx error:

                  × nginx.service - nginx - high performance web server  
                       Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/nginx.service; enabled; preset: enabled)  
                       Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Thu 2025-01-02 17:26:07 EST; 22s ago  
                     Duration: 5min 39.898s  
                         Docs: https://nginx.org/en/docs/  
                      Process: 9406 ExecStart=/usr/sbin/nginx -c /etc/nginx/nginx.conf (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)  
                          CPU: 6ms  
                  
                  Jan 02 17:26:06 pi nginx[9406]: nginx: [emerg] bind() to 0.0.0.0:5000 failed (98: Address already in use)  
                  Jan 02 17:26:06 pi nginx[9406]: nginx: [emerg] bind() to [::]:5000 failed (98: Address already in use)  
                  Jan 02 17:26:06 pi nginx[9406]: nginx: [emerg] bind() to 0.0.0.0:5000 failed (98: Address already in use)  
                  Jan 02 17:26:06 pi nginx[9406]: nginx: [emerg] bind() to [::]:5000 failed (98: Address already in use)  
                  Jan 02 17:26:07 pi nginx[9406]: nginx: [emerg] bind() to 0.0.0.0:5000 failed (98: Address already in use)  
                  Jan 02 17:26:07 pi nginx[9406]: nginx: [emerg] bind() to [::]:5000 failed (98: Address already in use)  
                  Jan 02 17:26:07 pi nginx[9406]: nginx: [emerg] still could not bind()  
                  Jan 02 17:26:07 pi systemd[1]: nginx.service: Control process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE  
                  Jan 02 17:26:07 pi systemd[1]: nginx.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.  
                  Jan 02 17:26:07 pi systemd[1]: Failed to start nginx.service - nginx - high performance web server.  
                  

                  If I do the opposite and load nginx before PieFed, PieFed will make a similar complaint about sharing the same port.

                  The pyfedi.service, celery.service and celeryd files all look similar to the examples from the INSTALL.md except I changed the directory names to match my name in the appropriate places.

                  Here are the error messages I am getting from systemctl:

                  pyfedi.service error/celery.service error:

                  sudo systemctl status celery.service  
                  × pyfedi.service - Gunicorn instance to serve PieFed application  
                       Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/pyfedi.service; enabled; preset: enabled)  
                       Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Thu 2025-01-02 14:28:27 EST; 4h 42min ago  
                     Duration: 126ms  
                      Process: 6699 ExecStart=/home/USERNAME/pyfedi/venv/bin/gunicorn --config gunicorn.conf.py --preload pyfedi:app (code>  
                     Main PID: 6699 (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)  
                          CPU: 126ms  
                  
                  Jan 02 14:28:27 pi systemd[1]: pyfedi.service: Scheduled restart job, restart counter is at 5.  
                  Jan 02 14:28:27 pi systemd[1]: Stopped pyfedi.service - Gunicorn instance to serve PieFed application.  
                  Jan 02 14:28:27 pi systemd[1]: pyfedi.service: Start request repeated too quickly.  
                  Jan 02 14:28:27 pi systemd[1]: pyfedi.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.  
                  Jan 02 14:28:27 pi systemd[1]: Failed to start pyfedi.service - Gunicorn instance to serve PieFed application.  
                  lines 1-13/13 (END)  
                  
                  ----------  
                  
                  × celery.service - Celery Service  
                       Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/celery.service; enabled; preset: enabled)  
                       Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Thu 2025-01-02 14:28:26 EST; 4h 42min ago  
                      Process: 6694 ExecStart=/bin/sh -c ${CELERY_BIN} multi start -A ${CELERY_APP} ${CELERYD_NODES} --pidfile=${CELERY>  
                          CPU: 341ms  
                  
                  Jan 02 14:28:26 pi sh[6695]:   File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap_external>", line 940, in exec_module  
                  Jan 02 14:28:26 pi sh[6695]:   File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 241, in _call_with_frames_removed  
                  Jan 02 14:28:26 pi sh[6695]:   File "/home/USERNAME/pyfedi/celery_worker.py", line 3, in <module>  
                  Jan 02 14:28:26 pi sh[6695]:     from app import celery, create_app  
                  Jan 02 14:28:26 pi sh[6695]:   File "/home/USERNAME/pyfedi/app/__init__.py", line 7, in <module>  
                  Jan 02 14:28:26 pi sh[6695]:     from flask import Flask, request, current_app, session  
                  Jan 02 14:28:26 pi sh[6695]: ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'flask'  
                  Jan 02 14:28:26 pi systemd[1]: celery.service: Control process exited, code=exited, status=2/INVALIDARGUMENT  
                  Jan 02 14:28:26 pi systemd[1]: celery.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.  
                  Jan 02 14:28:26 pi systemd[1]: Failed to start celery.service - Celery Service.  
                  
                  

                  At this point I am stuck and not sure where to go from here.

                  • Rimu
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                    22 days ago

                    You seem to have followed the instructions for BOTH the easy way (docker) AND the hard way - you have PieFed running in docker AND you have it installed on the host. Is that it?

          • tatersOP
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            17 days ago

            Yeah, I had :5000 at the end, otherwise I would have gotten an error with the initial website connection from a browser saying the domain did not match. That’s how I figured out to change the port in the compose.yaml from an earlier attempt.

            I did not create a reverse proxy. I got excited at getting the site to load that I missed that. I’ll try that in a couple days when I’m free again.

            Docker decided to randomly disappear my PieFed image an hour after I finished working on it. The PyFedi folder and all it’s contents have vanished. A very quick search showed that it has happened to other people with other images. So it’s a thing maybe? Strange but fortunately it was all fresh and nothing was lost.

    • @Evotech
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      I wouldn’t worry about cloudflare reliability. Compared to your rasberrypi especially :p