The deadliest air accident ever in South Korea killed 179 people on Sunday, when an airliner belly-landed and skidded off the end of the runway, erupting in a fireball as it slammed into a wall at Muan International Airport.

  • @HappycamperNZEnglish
    7•5 days ago

    Not pilot.

    Go around is full power and still some flaps.

    If they were on final, and followed procedures correctly, they were set to land something like 5k out. If they had another birdstrike it would be in landing configuration, not clean.

    • @kcufEnglish
      5•5 days ago

      You also generally don’t raise the gear until you have positive rate of climb, I only fly small planes, but the principal should be the same.

      This plane looks like it’s going way too fast and not in landing configuration. Maybe they couldn’t get the plane into landing configuration due to some failure, that would require them to keep their speed up (flaps/slats reduce the landing speed), but even then it looked like they weren’t slowing down, so maybe they were still under power?

      • @HappycamperNZEnglish
        1•5 days ago

        Yup.

        Something you might be able to comment on that I haven’t seen discussed- are the reversers engaged? It looks like the cowling has come back, and if they tried but it didn’t engage (on account of being dragged along a runway at 140kt) the could still be proving thrust.

        • @kcufEnglish
          2•5 days ago

          I’m not an expert, I only fly small piston planes, but watching the video the cowling has opened as they do when the thrust reversers have been applied, however the engines are dragging on the ground so I’d assume that forced them open. I’m not sure if opening the exterior would engage the thrust reverser (i.e. is the external mechanism tied to the internal mechanism so they move together, or do they move independently?), if not then we can’t conclude much from the video.

    • @FourPacketsOfPeanutsEnglish
      1•5 days ago

      Yes thought I was probably wrong about that. Makes sense pulling gears isn’t a priority in go around. (So we’re not looking at them having retracted them)

      • @HappycamperNZEnglish
        1•5 days ago

        All good - I can’t remember if gear is pulled in a go around, but I presume it would only be after they have established a climb… you don’t raise gear if your still going down.

        Something that wasn’t discussed- I think the reverses are engaged. The cowling looks like its been pulled back. You can’t go around once reversers are engaged.

        • @FourPacketsOfPeanutsEnglish
          1•5 days ago

          Hmm even weirder. Pilot on Reddit was saying very very few reasons for gear to be disabled. I believe with no mayday either?

          • @HappycamperNZEnglish
            2•5 days ago

            One of the few I can think of is asymmetrical gear - one side deployed but not the other. Will cause a plane to dig into runway and spin/disintegrate. Maybe gear up was the plan, but too fast and too heavy with wrong configuration.