Letting people talk is an important thing, especially if you disagree with them. There is also such a thing as letting idiots talk too much, but I would argue that there are way too many debates happening on the internet that are about a caricature of a belief held by some group of people rather than what that group actually believes. In the limited amount of podcasts I’ve seen from Joe he does do a pretty good job of letting people articulate their positions. In most cases you have to start there before you can dismiss an idea.
Yeah. That’s why I’m partly sticking up for Rogan.
It’s okay to listen to your “enemies” and let them be heard in their own words. It’s actually the first step to disagreeing with them and people coming to where they can understand the truth.
It’s also okay to cut through the bullshit when someone’s lying, of course, and I wish Joe would do that too, but the first thing is in even shorter supply than the second in the current media landscape.
But if giving Nazis a platform radicalizes 10 people to become Nazis and 1 to reconsider, then it makes for a lot of Nazi recruitment.
I like the theory, but in practice it’s dangerous to give seemingly equal platforms to everyone. Some people have views that should be checked at the door.
Who decides what views need to be checked at the door, though?
You? Me? The government? The person who owns the platform? The person who hosts the show?
To you and me, anti-vaxxers are the dangerous ones. To some other people, a majority probably, the pro-Palestinian protestors are the dangerous ones whose views need to be checked at the door. What then?
No one entity should be the arbiter of that. But if most people think nazism is bad, then anyone who platforms a Nazi shouldn’t be listened to, laughed off the air even.
I don’t know what is going wrong (education, perhaps), but the people who support Joe Rogan are (like it or not) supporting recruiting new Nazis.
I guess what I’m trying to convey is:
You can listen to whoever you want. But if you defend joe Rogan for platforming everyone, my counter argument is he platforms Nazis and the rest he does kind of doesn’t matter after that.
Letting people talk is an important thing, especially if you disagree with them. There is also such a thing as letting idiots talk too much, but I would argue that there are way too many debates happening on the internet that are about a caricature of a belief held by some group of people rather than what that group actually believes. In the limited amount of podcasts I’ve seen from Joe he does do a pretty good job of letting people articulate their positions. In most cases you have to start there before you can dismiss an idea.
Yeah. That’s why I’m partly sticking up for Rogan.
It’s okay to listen to your “enemies” and let them be heard in their own words. It’s actually the first step to disagreeing with them and people coming to where they can understand the truth.
It’s also okay to cut through the bullshit when someone’s lying, of course, and I wish Joe would do that too, but the first thing is in even shorter supply than the second in the current media landscape.
But if giving Nazis a platform radicalizes 10 people to become Nazis and 1 to reconsider, then it makes for a lot of Nazi recruitment.
I like the theory, but in practice it’s dangerous to give seemingly equal platforms to everyone. Some people have views that should be checked at the door.
Who decides what views need to be checked at the door, though?
You? Me? The government? The person who owns the platform? The person who hosts the show?
To you and me, anti-vaxxers are the dangerous ones. To some other people, a majority probably, the pro-Palestinian protestors are the dangerous ones whose views need to be checked at the door. What then?
No one entity should be the arbiter of that. But if most people think nazism is bad, then anyone who platforms a Nazi shouldn’t be listened to, laughed off the air even.
I don’t know what is going wrong (education, perhaps), but the people who support Joe Rogan are (like it or not) supporting recruiting new Nazis.
I guess what I’m trying to convey is:
You can listen to whoever you want. But if you defend joe Rogan for platforming everyone, my counter argument is he platforms Nazis and the rest he does kind of doesn’t matter after that.