This was an individual who helped make the system. Brian Thompson was directly responsible for it’s creation.
Bro he’s been CEO since 2021… You really think he created the entire system?
His killing has overnight launched a nationwide discussion about how bullshit the current system is. There is immense value in that. It ain’t a problem.
Are there other ways to spark a discussion that don’t involve murder? Better options that have an overall more beneficial outcome for everyone with less chaos and death? I think so.
If the public really wanted change they could’ve demanded it long ago. This is a democracy (even if FPTP is shitty). Why would you not vote for the party that wants to make healthcare more humane and instead vote the party and guy for president who’s a public oligarch and thinks of the working class as beneath him.
Ethically the things Brian Thompson did were bad sure. But if he granted every healthcare request would the investors replace him? Most likely yes.
I believe you also cross a line when you argue that self-justice is right. Are rich people just gonna get murdered now since they’re rich? Like bc the capitalistic system favours people that already have wealth? Where is the line. Can I now murder anyone I think is a bad person? I don’t think this behaivor should be supported.
You don’t even know the guy… you see him as a demonised person and now his family and friends have lost him for no real change to have taken effect. I just hope this discussion just simmer down and the public will ignore the issue again.
Your comment is just boiling over with false premises. You’re not (and you won’t) make a compelling case that this specific person was “just a dude with a family”. Hitler was a dude with a family on some level in a bad faith argument like yours, but that’s not the context that matters while discussing him and the atrocities he willingly and repeatedly committed over the course of years.
Why would you not vote for the party that wants to make healthcare more humane and instead vote the party and guy for president who’s a public oligarch and thinks of the working class as beneath him.
Because the rulers of this country have systematically gutted the education system, they own the media, and their propaganda is wildly effective. And to top it off, as you pointed out it is a FPTP voting system, which means that the results of elections are worse.
Ethically the things Brian Thompson did were bad sure. But if he granted every healthcare request would the investors replace him? Most likely yes.
So what? Not being able to do good things in a position of power doesn’t mean it is acceptable or that he had no culpability.
I believe you also cross a line when you argue that self-justice is right. Are rich people just gonna get murdered now since they’re rich? Like bc the capitalistic system favours people that already have wealth? Where is the line. Can I now murder anyone I think is a bad person? I don’t think this behaivor should be supported.
I pretty clearly (though implicitly) defined the line already:
an intentional and willing killing of another person.
Brian intentionally and willingly killed people through his actions, and a lot of them. Thousands at a minimum, though easily tens of thousands as he was the CEO for quite a while. When somebody like him is killed, even if through vigilante justice, it is quite clearly justified. Have you been killing tens of thousands of people through insurance denials? No? Then you have nothing to worry about.
Other people who are rich should simply be taxed out of existence as a class. Not killed, just taxed until they’re at the level that would have previously been known as middle class before it was destroyed.
You don’t even know the guy… you see him as a demonised person and now his family and friends have lost him
As Snapz pointed out, Hitler had family too. Having a family doesn’t exclude you from having your death celebrated. If you’re evil, you’re evil even if you have family. And mass murderers like Brian Thompson are evil. So boo hoo. He gets his death celebrated. Maybe he shouldn’t have killed tens of thousands if he didn’t want this.
for no real change to have taken effect.
Then you aren’t paying attention, either to the surrounding events, or to what I literally just said:
His killing has overnight launched a nationwide discussion about how bullshit the current system is. There is immense value in that. It ain’t a problem.
I just hope this discussion just simmer down and the public will ignore the issue again.
I don’t. And it won’t. This is a conversation that needs to and will continue until the problem is solved.
If the public really wanted change they could’ve demanded it long ago. This is a democracy (even if FPTP is shitty). Why would you not vote for the party that wants to make healthcare more humane and instead vote the party and guy for president who’s a public oligarch and thinks of the working class as beneath him.
Ethically the things Brian Thompson did were bad sure. But if he granted every healthcare request would the investors replace him? Most likely yes.
I believe you also cross a line when you argue that self-justice is right. Are rich people just gonna get murdered now since they’re rich? Like bc the capitalistic system favours people that already have wealth? Where is the line. Can I now murder anyone I think is a bad person? I don’t think this behaivor should be supported.
You don’t even know the guy… you see him as a demonised person and now his family and friends have lost him for no real change to have taken effect. I just hope this discussion just simmer down and the public will ignore the issue again.
Your comment is just boiling over with false premises. You’re not (and you won’t) make a compelling case that this specific person was “just a dude with a family”. Hitler was a dude with a family on some level in a bad faith argument like yours, but that’s not the context that matters while discussing him and the atrocities he willingly and repeatedly committed over the course of years.
They have been. Congress doesn’t listen:
https://act.represent.us/sign/problempoll-fba/
On paper, sure. But in effect it is an oligarchy.
Because the rulers of this country have systematically gutted the education system, they own the media, and their propaganda is wildly effective. And to top it off, as you pointed out it is a FPTP voting system, which means that the results of elections are worse.
So what? Not being able to do good things in a position of power doesn’t mean it is acceptable or that he had no culpability.
I pretty clearly (though implicitly) defined the line already:
Brian intentionally and willingly killed people through his actions, and a lot of them. Thousands at a minimum, though easily tens of thousands as he was the CEO for quite a while. When somebody like him is killed, even if through vigilante justice, it is quite clearly justified. Have you been killing tens of thousands of people through insurance denials? No? Then you have nothing to worry about.
Other people who are rich should simply be taxed out of existence as a class. Not killed, just taxed until they’re at the level that would have previously been known as middle class before it was destroyed.
As Snapz pointed out, Hitler had family too. Having a family doesn’t exclude you from having your death celebrated. If you’re evil, you’re evil even if you have family. And mass murderers like Brian Thompson are evil. So boo hoo. He gets his death celebrated. Maybe he shouldn’t have killed tens of thousands if he didn’t want this.
Then you aren’t paying attention, either to the surrounding events, or to what I literally just said:
I don’t. And it won’t. This is a conversation that needs to and will continue until the problem is solved.