• @kofe
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    14 days ago

    Well, we can prove the universe exists, but not that it’s some unified, all-powerful thing controlling us all afaik.

    It’s why I stick with agnostic atheism. I’m not claiming to know either way on all forms of deism or theism or whatever. There’s enough contradictions and falsifiable claims in all organized religions I’ve been made aware of so far, so I am gnosticly atheist for those specific gods.

    • @VoterFrog
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      3 days ago

      Your inability to come up with a way to produce evidence doesn’t make the strong atheist’s stance unfalsifiable. Unfalsifiable isn’t “We can’t produce any evidence that would falsify the claim right now.” That would take us to an absurd definition of the word where any scientific theory that requires more advanced technology than we currently have is “unfalsifiable.” That’s not what the word means.

      The difficulty in proving that God exists isn’t what makes theism unfalsifiable. You shouldn’t make any assumptions about what can or cannot be proven true at some point in the future. What makes it unfalsifiable is that there’s no rational way to prove that God doesn’t exist, not because of an inability to collect evidence, but because the logical framework constructed by religious claims forbids it. Strong atheism has forbade no such thing. There’s no equivalence here.