• @[email protected]
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    -94 days ago

    I know multiple people here on H1B visas too. They do have difficulties that Americans do not, but they would still much rather be in the USA than go back to their home countries. How would taking away that option to be in the USA (which they really want) help these people?

    • @NocturnalMorning
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      94 days ago

      Who said anything about taking it away? They point is that the comment about it being borderline indentured servitude is accurate.

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        4 days ago

        If Sanders gets his way and denies H1B visas to people who would have gotten them under Musk’s proposal, then Sanders is taking away the option of coming to the USA that those people would have had. That’s (1) an option no one is forcing them to take, (2) an option that they really want, and (3) an option that they can change their mind about at any time. An indentured servant is someone who doesn’t have the option of leaving. You can’t make someone indentured by giving them more options.

        • TimmyDeanSausage
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          54 days ago

          Surely you would support expanding the H1B so that it’s easier for H1B workers to change jobs then, right? Let them come, but also nuetralize any options for corporations to abuse the H1B system. Sounds like a reasonable compromise to me.

          • @[email protected]
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            4 days ago

            Yes, I would support that. I think that simply making H1B visas easier to get will reduce the extent of the problem (since getting a new H1B at a new job would be easier too) but I would also support additional measures specifically to address it.

            • TimmyDeanSausage
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              44 days ago

              How would you address the already over-burdened immigration system to deal with the influx of new H1B visas? What kind of specific measures would you propose to keep corporations from abusing H1B workers?

            • @btaf45
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              24 days ago

              I think that simply making H1B visas easier to get will reduce the extent of the problem

              Fuck that. They should be abolished completely. There are tons of Americans who can do those jobs. Businesses do not need to have government bailouts via the immigration system.

              • @iopq
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                14 days ago

                They can do those jobs, but are they the most qualified candidates for those jobs?