government employees rarely make more than private employees.
what they are getting mixed up is that some tenured positions get paid about 2x that of a new employee, because there are still some old contracts around that are simply much better than newer one in terms of pay raises over time.
and those older government contracts frequently include provisions that make these employees contracts impossible to terminate, resulting in some government employees that simply sit out their time on a stupidly inflated salary that nobody can fire…yes, that’s as bad as it sounds, but those contracts are, as far as im aware, no longer being offered anywhere, and the last ones to get those contracts are going to age out into retirement very soon. most are already retired.
it’s not related to corruption at all either, these contracts used to be standard in many governments all over the world, europe just happened to have some of the cushiest jobs associated with them…
but it is true that these employees generally contributed a LOT to governmental inefficiencies…which is why they’re no longer available.
what they are getting mixed up is that some tenured positions get paid about 2x that of a new employee, because there are still some old contracts around that are simply much better than newer one in terms of pay raises over time.
I’m not confusing anything. Even as lately as 10 and 5 years ago, internal wages for EU-staff (I’m talking about EU itself, not nation states) were easily 2x the agency staff wages, when all the benefits are included. And yes, internal staff is by all accounts unfirable except in grossly egregious situations. It’s just that permanent positions like this a lot of times go through a what I call a “hazing” period, where the to-be-internal has to go through multiple “short term hiring” cycles, before getting a permanent contract.
alright, then we’re talking about slightly different things: i was talking exclusively about the similar kind of government contracts…those are, afaik, almost entirely gone.
the EU contracts i know nothing about, but it’s gonna create the same problems if they’re structured similarly to the local governmental ones…
government employees rarely make more than private employees.
what they are getting mixed up is that some tenured positions get paid about 2x that of a new employee, because there are still some old contracts around that are simply much better than newer one in terms of pay raises over time.
and those older government contracts frequently include provisions that make these employees contracts impossible to terminate, resulting in some government employees that simply sit out their time on a stupidly inflated salary that nobody can fire…yes, that’s as bad as it sounds, but those contracts are, as far as im aware, no longer being offered anywhere, and the last ones to get those contracts are going to age out into retirement very soon. most are already retired.
it’s not related to corruption at all either, these contracts used to be standard in many governments all over the world, europe just happened to have some of the cushiest jobs associated with them…
but it is true that these employees generally contributed a LOT to governmental inefficiencies…which is why they’re no longer available.
I’m not confusing anything. Even as lately as 10 and 5 years ago, internal wages for EU-staff (I’m talking about EU itself, not nation states) were easily 2x the agency staff wages, when all the benefits are included. And yes, internal staff is by all accounts unfirable except in grossly egregious situations. It’s just that permanent positions like this a lot of times go through a what I call a “hazing” period, where the to-be-internal has to go through multiple “short term hiring” cycles, before getting a permanent contract.
alright, then we’re talking about slightly different things: i was talking exclusively about the similar kind of government contracts…those are, afaik, almost entirely gone.
the EU contracts i know nothing about, but it’s gonna create the same problems if they’re structured similarly to the local governmental ones…