• davel [he/him]
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      262 days ago

      The capitalist class that expropriates the working class’ surplus value sure doesn’t hate capitalism.

    • @[email protected]
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      242 days ago

      Yeah alot of them love capitalism so hard, while simultaneously bemoaning every single part of capitalism, while being too stupid to be convinced the two are connected.

        • @[email protected]
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          22 days ago

          To be honest, I have never meant the word stupid to mean anything outside of “decided they already know everything and have thus stop allowing themselves capable of learning”, I dont believe anyone is actually stupid, they just stop learning and it appears the same way anyways.

    • @AdrianTheFrog
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      72 days ago

      but everyone hates the big companies and the rich people

      its just that the right has been told that the left are the rich people (and then the left say that the neoliberals are the rich people, etc)

      • @[email protected]
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        42 days ago

        Do you think the problem with big companies and rich people is that individual rich people and the CEOs they elect just happen to be bad people?

        • @AdrianTheFrog
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          12 days ago

          The people who are willing to do more unethical stuff to make a profit make more of a profit, and become more powerful as a natural consequence, so the problem is with the system that incentives this and brings it to the top

          • @[email protected]
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            42 days ago

            Then I am confused why you would disagree with the left, that the political philosophy of capitalism, liberalism, is to blame.

            • @AdrianTheFrog
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              12 days ago

              It’s just that the right blames the capitalism on the left and the left blames the capitalism on the right, and the actual liberals end up being barely opposed

              I don’t know what the takeaway from that should be, it’s just an observation/simplification that feels generally true

        • @[email protected]
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          12 days ago

          Individuals being bad isn’t really the problem. Within a company, jobs are performed in order to fulfill a fiduciary responsibility. You could argue that this makes people bad in some cases, but it’s not always cut and dry.

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      -22 days ago

      True. Capitalism can be made to work well for most people, as shown in many European and Asian countries. You need strong regulations (and for workers to engage in unions and in voting). People (specially on lemmy) seem to mix American oligarchy with capitalism.