• MasterOBee Master/King
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    You saying this in this scenario is the reason why we’re so divided. You try to pervert fair arguments and make them seem absurd.

    These are not the issues the democrats are targeting in wanting to solve when they want to ban semi-autos, and you know it.

    If the 3 yo instead stabbed the 1 year old, would that make a difference? Should we start banning household knives?

    • Flying Squid
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      I don’t hear a lot about 3-year-olds stabbing 1-year-olds. I do hear a lot about toddlers getting guns and shooting other kids…

      • MasterOBee Master/King
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        If the 3 yo instead stabbed the 1 year old, would that make a difference? Should we start banning household knives?

        • @BrianTheeBiscuiteer
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          Knives are in nearly every household yet accidental deaths from laceration are not very common. Maybe they’re not nearly as prevalent in media so kids don’t think to “play” with knives. Maybe they’re just not as deadly as guns (they’re absolutely not).

          The biggest difference between knives (plus the dozens of other dangerous household items that any normal person owns) and guns is the purpose. Guns are intended to harm living things. I cut things almost daily, but in 40 years I’ve never had a situation where I thought a gun would’ve improved the outcome.

        • @[email protected]
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          Such a bullshit take. The kid would stop once they knew it was hurting. No such chance with a gun.

          Again, it’s gun nuts like you that make people like me say fuck the second.

          • MasterOBee Master/King
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            Again, it’s gun nuts like you that make people like me say fuck the second.

            HAHAHA I own my dads old little .22. I’m not a gun nut, just empathetic enough with people that have different lifestyles to know that tens of millions of americans provide food and protection for themselves with guns, and that someone using a tool incorrectly across the nation shouldn’t make me hate and ban them.

        • Flying Squid
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          What 3-year-olds are stabbing people? You are obsessed with this idea.

        • @Touching_Grass
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          The implication with what they said is that if there was a repeated incident of toddlers accidentally using knives to kill siblings then there probably would be some type of action. But a three year old can’t harm much with a knife,not like with a firearm

        • @Crazypartypony
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          Yup, actually putting the gun in a locked safe or maybe a trigger lock or a safety switch or taking out the bullets, nothing else would work… responsible gun owners are not a problem. Stop creating an issue where there isn’t one. Gun control isn’t just banning guns.

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          You cant ban “basic” tools

          Guns are tools too, but way to specialized. Almost nobody really needs them.

          But knives? I use knives daily for food prep/cooking

          And opening boxes

          And cutting wood

          (Of course different knives with different types of blade, etc)

          A gun has 1 purpose: kill someone

          • @CoffeeJunkie
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            And kill animals for food.

            And kill pest animals.

            But yeah, that’s about it.

          • MasterOBee Master/King
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            but way to specialized. Almost nobody really needs them.

            Every tool is specialized. How many different screws do they make that need different screw drivers?

            And the fact that you can’t empathize with any other lifestyle than your, likely big city, lifestyle is absurd. Do you not know people rely on hunting for food? For protection?

            But knives? I use knives daily for food prep/cooking

            What if a rural individual hunts every day?

            And opening boxes

            Guards his animals every day. You ever try to get a hungry coyote off your chickens?

            kill someone

            See right there, that’s my point. You don’t see it as a tool. You see it as a violent weapon that is only made to kill ‘someone,’ you’re so limited in your world view that you can’t even comprehend someone hunting for a deer to provide for their family. All you know is that you can buy some deer meet at stores.

    • @yesman
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      want to ban semi-autos, and you know it.

      I say F the 2nd. And it was gun rights advocates who radicalized me, not Democrats.

      • @BrianTheeBiscuiteer
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        Is a pump-action shotgun not an armament? A bolt-action rifle? A revolver? I’m fine with an 18yo buying one of these. You want something more powerful then show you’re responsible enough to own it.

      • MasterOBee Master/King
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        Okay, well until we as a country determine that the constitution needs amending and we want to repeal the 2nd amendment, it’s the constitution that is the most important part of the law that every state must abide by.

        I like that you didn’t respond to the rest of my comment that showed how stupid yours was. What do you think of the criticism I had for your comment, do you just want to ignore my points of

        1. You’re strawmanning the argument
        2. This isn’t the scenario’s the democrats are targeting when they want to ban AR’s.
        3. If a different weapon was used, do you think it’s a good argument to ban said weapon?
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          It is likely that the 3 y/o would not have killed the 1 y/o if a gun was not available.

          Unless murder was on the mind.

          • MasterOBee Master/King
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            You can’t see a scenario where instead of a gun the kid had, he’s playing with a knife and cuts the 1 year old? Have you been around many kids that age?

            But, please entertain me, if it was a knife, should we be trying to ban knives?

            • Flying Squid
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              I don’t ever remember my child playing with a knife, let along attacking another child with a knife. What kind of children are you around?

              • MasterOBee Master/King
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                I’ve never seen a child shoot another kid, but that doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened, clearly. You’re doing a lot to avoid the question:

                if it was a knife, should we be trying to ban knives?

                • Flying Squid
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                  Can you demonstrate that it has happened?

                  And I never said anything about banning anything.

    • @[email protected]
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      Whats the “fair argument”? You need more guns to prevent more shootings? Do you realise how dumb this is?

          • MasterOBee Master/King
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            And that’s the problem with you - you have no empathy for others.

            Guns are useful. Guns provide food for millions of american families. They provide protection for ones home. They provide protection for ones animals.

            You want me to fight a coyote attacking my chickens with a knife?

            You may live in a lifestyle that you don’t need to hunt for food, you don’t have a chicken or your family to protect, likely a big city. What about everyone else that doesn’t share your lifestyle?

            • @Klear
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              What kind of third world shithole do you live in?

              • MasterOBee Master/King
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                Someone that hunts for food is 3rd world?

                I think you’ve lost what it means to be human. I understand, you buy your eggs from the market, does it make someone inherently worse that they get their eggs from their chickens?