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Forty-eight Democrats joined Republicans in supporting legislation that aims to deport more migrants charged with nonviolent crimes, a first salvo in a broader crackdown.
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And the genocide begins.
I don’t think deporting immigrants who don’t have status counts as a genocide. We should avoid watering down key words.
With increased deportations it’s going to cause a problem with housing all these people while they await deportation proceedings. The options are to build huge camps and prisons to hold these people or expedite their deportation, which would ultimately result in American citizens and legal immigrants being deported. Large camps and prisons will cause a huge amount of family separation and large scale abuse and possibly issues with starvation and other humanitarian atrocities. You’re completely unaware that there are over ten million illegal immigrants in the u.s.
It can absolutely be criminal, be a human rights violation, be state terrorism, be oppression. It just doesn’t fit the UN definition of Genocide.
Cultural genocide is genocide. Just cause you don’t consider them legal doesn’t mean they don’t have friends family and culture here. Justify it anyway you want but don’t say it’s “watering down” just cause you don’t know what that word fully means and don’t care about this particular form of genocide.
It’s a pretty hot potato word so I generally stay with the UN definition. As I said on another comment it can be bad, it can be a human rights violation and state oppression without being Genocide.
It’s a hot potato word only in the sense that people who support genocide really fucking hate it when what they do is called such. To those people I say their concerns are bullshit and they can stuff it. We are talking about a mass incarceration and deportation of a racial group for the purpose of the destruction of that culture from a country. We are talking genocide. Why do you want to let evil men define their deeds as anything else than the thing it is? Do you support them? Are you here to poison the well? Or are you just so caught up in trying to intellectualize a genocide you can’t see the bodies at your own god damn feet? Either way, stuff it.
Do you think this will just stop with immigrants? Do you think racist cops are going to care if brown people are here legally or not? Do you think they’ll even care if they have an ID with them?
I didn’t say it was in full swing, I said it begins.
This sounds very tinfoil hat-ish.
Not saying I don’t somewhat agree with what youre getting at, but you sound like you think the world is already over, or that not a single moral is left on earth.
It’s not tinfoil hat-ish at all. It has happened more than once already.
https://immigrationimpact.com/2021/07/30/ice-deport-us-citizens/
There’s a difference between what’s been labeled as “a mistake” per the article you shared and what you’re alluding as by intention.
Also, semi-related. It’s important I think to mention US citizenship is broken into 3 types: US Citizen, Naturalized US Citizen, and Non Citizen. This is more likely to be a problem for Naturalized Citizens than US born. Each is different in their own ways.
https://immigrationlawyersusa.com/can-a-us-citizen-be-deported/
from a linked article
kinda hard to believe they’re just mistakes, if the article to be believed.
What exactly do you think that difference is going to be going forward?
But I can see you’re making excuses for these fascists and their genocidal plans, so I think this is a fruitless discussion.