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Thanks, hopefully I’ll remember that

Or drug users who get clean later in life being celebrated while there are no celebrations for those who never got addicted in the first place.(That one is way different since they are generally only hurting themselves, and as such i dont really care what they do)

This one is also different due to genetics, upbringing, environment, id say it probably doesn’t have a spot in most of this discussion, but there’s some overlap I can see.

reaching that baseline is nothing to be impressed by

Idk if impressed is the word id use for how I feel about it. But I would say it’s commendable for sure, and something to have respect for. Especially with what humanity’s baseline actually is vs. what we want it to be.

I don’t think it takes away from the baseline, and I don’t think it’s downplaying the harm either. The harm is real, and it’s hurtful, but this is still a win. It’s definitely not a perfect win, but I think this may be a case of letting perfection get in the way of progress. This woman’s actions are going to echo and hopefully help other people grow as well.

Children are sponges, adults are too, just less so. It sounds like you grew up absorbing empathy from whoever it was that you grew up with, or whatever you grew up with (books, media, etc.) these people absorbed hate, and for them it was celebrated and too often still is.

I think that this is a problem that cannot be solved by family or in some cases only introspecting without adding viewpoints of people that understand empathy. It’s going to take community. That’s what this woman was given on the worst day of her life, and it paid off. Unfortunately we can’t know what happened before that, but you can probably take an accurate guess based on people you know that are deeply embedded in a lot of different Christianity sects.