The Third World is not poor. You don’t go to poor countries to make money. There are very few poor countries in this world. Most countries are rich! The Philippines are rich! Brazil is rich! Mexico is rich! Chile is rich! Only the people are poor. But there’s billions to be made there, to be carved out, and to be taken. There’s been billions for 400 years! The capitalist European and North American powers have carved out and taken the timber, the flax, the hemp, the cocoa, the rum, the tin, the copper, the iron, the rubber, the bauxite, the slaves, and the cheap labour. They have taken out of these countries. These countries are not underdeveloped, they’re overexploited!
Exactly thanks, and that’s exactly what I’ve been saying! The exploitation comes from within the countries first, the outsiders help instigate it because it makes sense from a game theory pov. However, many nation states stand as counter examples of how they escaped that.
No, you have it opposite. More powerful nations come in and set up corrupt structures to maintain it, such as the Fascist Batista in Cuba for US interests before he was overthrown by the Communists.
What do you mean? It’s commonly known that Western Europe and the US colonized the world and rode on the backs of slavery for centuries, the modern form of which is Imperialism. Cuba is a great example, the US installed the Batista regime to profit off of slave labor and tried to send death squads to thwart the Cuban Revolution, which ultimately failed, leaving Cubans free from direct exploitation by the US Empire. Cuba is still subject to brutal embargo because the US Empire never forgave Cubans for freeing themselves from slavery and hurting US profits.
The U.S. or western nations were hardly the first to do it, but the way things came together at that point in history certainly helped.
Regardless, many countries which exploited the trans-Atlantic slave trade aren’t even that successful now, relative to the U.S. so it’s not just slavery which made America what it is.
I did not say that only the US has used slaves. I am explaining that colonialism and Imperialism have been ongoing processes for the last several centuries and explain where the wealth in the Global North comes from, and it’s from stealing it from the Global South. You seem to be intentionally missing the point out of a sense of contrarianism.
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At this point I think your ignorance is intentional. To paraphrase Upton Sinclair, it is difficult to get a person to understand something when their self-interest prevents them from understanding it.
I think oppression politics exist solely in the hopes of redistributing wealth to a new cadre of ghouls who won’t be any better than the first. That’s not social justice, it’s revenge.
Michael Parenti: Africa is rich. Quote from a similar speech:
Exactly thanks, and that’s exactly what I’ve been saying! The exploitation comes from within the countries first, the outsiders help instigate it because it makes sense from a game theory pov. However, many nation states stand as counter examples of how they escaped that.
No, you have it opposite. More powerful nations come in and set up corrupt structures to maintain it, such as the Fascist Batista in Cuba for US interests before he was overthrown by the Communists.
Oh please, forget it. You think they didn’t do that in countries which succeeded?
What do you mean? It’s commonly known that Western Europe and the US colonized the world and rode on the backs of slavery for centuries, the modern form of which is Imperialism. Cuba is a great example, the US installed the Batista regime to profit off of slave labor and tried to send death squads to thwart the Cuban Revolution, which ultimately failed, leaving Cubans free from direct exploitation by the US Empire. Cuba is still subject to brutal embargo because the US Empire never forgave Cubans for freeing themselves from slavery and hurting US profits.
Many countries used other people as slaves, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery
The U.S. or western nations were hardly the first to do it, but the way things came together at that point in history certainly helped.
Regardless, many countries which exploited the trans-Atlantic slave trade aren’t even that successful now, relative to the U.S. so it’s not just slavery which made America what it is.
https://www.statista.com/chart/22057/countries-most-active-trans-atlantic-slave-trade/
Now days slavery is not just a west only problem though. But the west is more honest about its history than most in this regard.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-that-still-have-slavery
I did not say that only the US has used slaves. I am explaining that colonialism and Imperialism have been ongoing processes for the last several centuries and explain where the wealth in the Global North comes from, and it’s from stealing it from the Global South. You seem to be intentionally missing the point out of a sense of contrarianism.
It seems you’re going way out of your way to aggressively not understand how imperialism and neocolonialism work, nor compradors’ role in it.
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At this point I think your ignorance is intentional. To paraphrase Upton Sinclair, it is difficult to get a person to understand something when their self-interest prevents them from understanding it.
I think oppression politics exist solely in the hopes of redistributing wealth to a new cadre of ghouls who won’t be any better than the first. That’s not social justice, it’s revenge.