What was neutered? The job market left a HS education behind a long time ago, and that’s not because of the high school curriculum, that’s because of the job market
It’s coming around in my area. In my day, the schools partnered with the local colleges for students to get college credit while still in high school.
Now, the local high schools in my area are also partnered with several vocational schools, including automotive, welding, industrial maintenance, veterinary, cosmetology, and about a dozen more. There is a work-study program where students are getting high school credit for on-the-job training from certain local employers.
The kids in these programs are graduating with two years experience in technical fields, while their college-bound peers might have worked a couple years flipping burgers.
No its sadly a reflection of reality for many. Kids who don’t know any better sign the dotted line on a 20k$ loan for a political science or liberal arts degree then wonder why their 4 year education didnt translate into marketable skills for a well paying job.
So they enter their early 20s living paycheck to paycheck on an entry level job barely making enough to pay off their student loans, this months rent, and have enough left over to afford food. This makes them rightfully pessimistic about the system so they go on lemmy to rant about capitalism while hoping it all burns down along with their loans. Its a predictable cliche.
It depends on which communities of lemmy you frequent. If your on c/programmerhumor or c/Linux memes this demographic is fairly accurate, if your visiting c/solarpunk.climate, c/fuckcars, c/fuckcapitalism or c/leftism type communities its more likely to have the younger disillusioned political minded types buried in debt. If I were to put some rough numbers based on my time in lemmy its roughly 30% computer geek IT types, 30% political/ecological activists, 30% LGBQT+, 10% everyone else
I think you’re reading more into than I actually said.
Minors are generally prohibited from using powered equipment as employees. They can’t use packaging equipment, cardboard compactors, deep fryers, powered pallet jacks, drills, let alone machining equipment.
The “college-bound peers” I’m talking about are not participating in these vocational programs. If they are working, (which they might not be) their status as minors is effectively limiting them to unskilled trades, like retail and food service.
The kids in these vocational programs are considered students, not employees. Where an AP student is not allowed to use a ladder or a cordless drill at work, the vocational student at their work-study program can use a manual lathe capable of ripping them in two at the torso. They can gain experience with pretty much any equipment in their program that an adult would be allowed to use on the job.
These vocational students are graduating with two years experience in industrial work that the AP students were legally prohibited from performing.
The curriculum is cumulative. In order for it to adapt, kids would have to learn more advanced subjects earlier than they have in years past. There are lots of kids doing this in Advanced Placement classes, but most kids are not ready to progress that quickly.
Second, there’s plenty of colleges that were very selective of which ones they accepted. Some went and mixed up their core classes just to make it so nothing matched. I went to one
What was neutered? The job market left a HS education behind a long time ago, and that’s not because of the high school curriculum, that’s because of the job market
the curriculum did not adapt to the job market
It’s coming around in my area. In my day, the schools partnered with the local colleges for students to get college credit while still in high school.
Now, the local high schools in my area are also partnered with several vocational schools, including automotive, welding, industrial maintenance, veterinary, cosmetology, and about a dozen more. There is a work-study program where students are getting high school credit for on-the-job training from certain local employers.
The kids in these programs are graduating with two years experience in technical fields, while their college-bound peers might have worked a couple years flipping burgers.
You had some really good points until:
This is you being judgmental, not a reflection of reality.
No its sadly a reflection of reality for many. Kids who don’t know any better sign the dotted line on a 20k$ loan for a political science or liberal arts degree then wonder why their 4 year education didnt translate into marketable skills for a well paying job.
So they enter their early 20s living paycheck to paycheck on an entry level job barely making enough to pay off their student loans, this months rent, and have enough left over to afford food. This makes them rightfully pessimistic about the system so they go on lemmy to rant about capitalism while hoping it all burns down along with their loans. Its a predictable cliche.
This is true. I even know some people with STEM degrees in this situation.
I agree about everything else, but I thoght lemmy people were mostly employed (usually in tech sector), and are in their 30s~40s.
It depends on which communities of lemmy you frequent. If your on c/programmerhumor or c/Linux memes this demographic is fairly accurate, if your visiting c/solarpunk.climate, c/fuckcars, c/fuckcapitalism or c/leftism type communities its more likely to have the younger disillusioned political minded types buried in debt. If I were to put some rough numbers based on my time in lemmy its roughly 30% computer geek IT types, 30% political/ecological activists, 30% LGBQT+, 10% everyone else
That’s a completely different issue than what I was talking about though
We were talking about work experience in high school
I think you’re reading more into than I actually said.
Minors are generally prohibited from using powered equipment as employees. They can’t use packaging equipment, cardboard compactors, deep fryers, powered pallet jacks, drills, let alone machining equipment.
The “college-bound peers” I’m talking about are not participating in these vocational programs. If they are working, (which they might not be) their status as minors is effectively limiting them to unskilled trades, like retail and food service.
The kids in these vocational programs are considered students, not employees. Where an AP student is not allowed to use a ladder or a cordless drill at work, the vocational student at their work-study program can use a manual lathe capable of ripping them in two at the torso. They can gain experience with pretty much any equipment in their program that an adult would be allowed to use on the job.
These vocational students are graduating with two years experience in industrial work that the AP students were legally prohibited from performing.
The curriculum is cumulative. In order for it to adapt, kids would have to learn more advanced subjects earlier than they have in years past. There are lots of kids doing this in Advanced Placement classes, but most kids are not ready to progress that quickly.
we could also just allow kids to go to college for free instead of killing them with interest rates :p
No argument here!
And many colleges adapted to AP classes by…not accepting them
That wasn’t my experience as a millennial
Did you attend every college?
Where are they not accepting CLEP tests?
First of all, CLEP and AP are not the same thing.
Second, there’s plenty of colleges that were very selective of which ones they accepted. Some went and mixed up their core classes just to make it so nothing matched. I went to one