If you want to hang out or use the restroom at Starbucks, you’re going to have to buy something.

Starbucks on Monday said it was reversing a policy that invited everyone into its stores. A new code of conduct – which will be posted in all company-owned North American stores – also bans discrimination or harassment, consumption of outside alcohol, smoking, vaping, drug use and panhandling.

Starbucks spokesperson Jaci Anderson said the new rules are designed to help prioritize paying customers. Anderson said most other retailers already have similar rules.

  • @[email protected]
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    Quick reminder that your local library probably does not follow those rules. Go hang out at your local library instead! Depending on location/country they might have a café too.

    • @ronflex
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      Also community college libraries. Theyre usually open where you can kinda just show up

    • @[email protected]
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      114 hours ago

      💯! This will also improve society as a whole if people went to library more than coffee shops. We take are kids all the time, and they love books and excel in school.

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      And libraries are not just about books. This is a thread I made about the new library branch my wife oversaw the design of opening:

      https://lemmy.world/post/21386043

      The reason conservatives hate libraries is because everything in them is free. Many (like my wife’s library system) do not even charge late fees anymore.

      Many modern libraries also offer a ton of digital lending including ebooks, audiobooks and even streaming movies and TV.

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        My local library also offers a thermal camera rental! I’ve borrowed one several times, it’s very useful!

        • Flying Squid
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          Nice! Having the free 3D printer access has been really useful for us on more than one occasion. We have no need to purchase one, but maybe once every six months, we might need to replace a part to something we can just 3D print and it’s been great.

          • @evasive_chimpanzee
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            You just have to slowly start printing all the pieces for your own Von Neumann probe printer

            • @mipadaitu
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              There are several designs for (partially) 3d printed printers.

              The original RepRap was one, and Prusa printers have quite a few 3d printed components. Aside from the electronics, hot end, motors, screws, and aluminum frame, that’s entirely possible.

              Obviously that’s still a lot you need to buy, but probably over half the actual parts are printable.

              • @evasive_chimpanzee
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                As someone with only a casual interest in 3d printing, are the open source 3d printers worth the effort it takes to make them vs buying one?

                • @mipadaitu
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                  It’s like anything else. There are super high quality mass produced printers for like $200, so if you want to make some prints for the lowest cost possible, that’s the way to go.

                  If you want a hobby about learning and tweaking the printer itself, then yup, the open source printers are really good and fun to work with.

                  If you want to make super strong, high quality prints for prototyping, or industrial applications, then you’re probably going to need to get a serious, real manufactured printer.

                  The nice thing about 3d printing, is that there’s options for anyone’s interest level.

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        I think they get annoyed when certain libraries get political and have displays featuring gender identity crises related books. I’ve seen it at my local library, and it’s a bit much when I’m in there with my little 1st grader.

        • @[email protected]
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          Better that they know about it at 6 than grow up feeling like they’re broken inside and end up taking their own life at 16.

          • @[email protected]
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            Hopefully they have better parents that actually parent. If you ever get a chance to parent, then do you.

        • Flying Squid
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          How does it harm your child in any way to see book covers about gender topics?

          Also, never, ever take them into a bookstore if that sort of thing is too damaging for them. They might see something like this and be immediately corrupted! They put them right there out in the open on display!

          • @[email protected]
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            The ones I’ve seen are designed like kids cereal boxes. This topic is so vogue and I’m not saying ban them. Just not have them displayed as a hot item. Mental illness affects more people than anything, I never see those books promoted as a hot item.

            Romance love novels are hilarious, I’m sorry they affend you. I think they are kinda ridiculous. I never see those displayed as the hot item.

            My wife and I are very affectionate and hold each other similar to this, so my kids see what love looks like.

            • Flying Squid
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              Sorry, are you saying transgender people are all mentally ill?

              • @[email protected]
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                I’m saying there are more people with mental health issues than there are people having gender identity crises.

                • Flying Squid
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                  Okay? I’m not sure how that’s even relevant to how book covers about gender identity harm your child but overtly sexual book covers do not.

        • Flying Squid
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          They do. But basically it triggers a series of nagging emails which eventually result in a final one saying that you either return the book or pay for the book if you wish to continue using library services. If I remember correctly, that takes about nine months. And they don’t charge some outrageous price for the book either, they just charge what it would cost to replace it. They might not even do that because they might not actually want to replace it, but my wife has never actually told me that. I imagine that’s the case though because they’re constantly weeding out books that no one has taken a look at in 20 years in order to make room for new books.

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            Seems like a cool system but if your waiting for a copy of a new release they only have w5 copies of I can see not getting to read it for a very long time.

            • @evasive_chimpanzee
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              If I recall correctly (i.e., I’m talking out my ass), when people have late fees that continue to stack up, some percentage of people will decide to just stop using the library. This results in them keeping the books, and also removes them as customers. This ultimately costs the library more than they gain by having fees.

              Also, there’s the saying “a fine is a price”. The idea is that by having a late fee, people are okay paying the late fee. Shame is often stronger than modest fees.

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              Most people are honest people. Especially people who use libraries. It’s just not a big problem as far as I know.

              Also, if you’re going to a library to get a book, you probably don’t want to keep the book.

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                Makes sense. I guess I’m one of the few who can never finish a book by the due date so I end up buying instead. Maybe I should just start returning those to the library cause I never read em again.

                Edit: huh. My library got rid of fees a few years ago. TIL.

            • @[email protected]
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              We use the library a lot and honestly it’s just not an issue. People respect libraries and generally return books by the due date.

    • @workerONE
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      I love going to the library to panhandle and smoke. Librarians don’t mind, I always leave them a good tip.

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      But I can’t talk about how cool my macbook is and the bootstrap code I just copy and pasted