• @gmtom
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    223 hours ago

    Cool, you’re completely ignoring the point of my comment.

    • @[email protected]
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      023 hours ago

      No. I didn’t. The person who won the popular vote was no vote. Fuck maga, the democrats need to be giving people a reason to show up.

      • @gmtom
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        211 hours ago

        Yes you did. And you’re still missing it.

        The point of my comment is that the election result is a side effect of the real issue.

        Trump got 62m votes in 2016, 74m in 2020 and 77m in 2024. So even when the dems DID beat him, and even when he killed off millions of his supporters with covid, he only got more popular. His cult grows and grows and becomes more fanatical. THAT is the real problem. And nothing the dems can do in a campaign will convert a fanatical trump supporter, so unless we can do something to stop his cult growing at the very least, then it’s not going to matter how good the dems campaign is.

        • SatansMaggotyCumFartOP
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          17 hours ago

          Biden got 81,283,501 in 2020 so he still holds the record for the most votes but a ton of people decided that they didn’t want to vote and were okay with the results being decided for them.

          How do you reach those people?

          • @gmtom
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            11 hour ago

            Again, you’re missing the entire point of the comment.

        • @[email protected]
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          This honestly feels like when Democrats say that they don’t need to change anything, they just need to educate voters, as though that’s some minor task. You’re taking an achievable task for the scope of an election (running a highly, highly aggressive policy plank instead of an uninspiring centrist plank covered in progressive vinyl-wrap) and swapping it for an unachievable task (let’s just make MAGA disappear). What’s more is that the former achieves the latter, imo. Making the MAGA cult vanish just isn’t an actionable item, but it is an outcome. You’re never going to get anywhere if you just get stuck at “Sorry, we’d love to try to win this year, but we haven’t figured out how to wish MAGA out of existence yet”.