I’m a manager who’s tired of wasting my time interviewing candidates that were picked because they are a minority but actually not qualified for the job
It’s a waste of time for me just as much as it is the candidate
Also the last unix admin I hired was black who didn’t indicate on their application that they are a minority. He got the interview and then the job because he knew how unix worked. Not because he is black. Do you follow me?
That’s true but that’s not what DEI is for. It’s aim is to simply be inclusive and not exclusive. DEI was never intended to be a quota or to hire someone less qualified simply because of race. That is actually racism.
Yet that’s how many orgs implemented it which is why so many people are against it. It’s not that DEI is bad, it’s that badly implemented DEI is worse than no DEI at all. But the pendulum ever swings and always with more momentum towards progress.
Utter trash. Please show me the organization that hired more women and minorities than white males.
The DEI pendelum allowed a few woman and even fewer minorities the chance at a job they could never get and now it is time to swing back to all white males again.
It is an extreme sexist and racist overreaction, end of story.
Sure, I do find it strange that you edgelords who seem to have a hard time with DEI training have never taken it
You take a class either independently or with a group. During this time you receive instruction explaining how all people are of value and how having a diverse range of decision makers produces better decisions.
There may be some scenarios that highlight how having, let’s say a woman in the workplace could be helpful. Imagine a bunch of men sitting around bitchinng about their wives. The women in the group explains something about how women think and the guys realize that they are misinterpreting what their wives are doing.
That is about the gist of it. In a lot of ways it is the kind of lesson you would learn in kindergarten. A lot of people never got this lesson and are extremely racist and sexist. DEI attempts to deliver the message they never got.
That doesn’t answer what I asked at all, you only answered once more what DEI is in theory.
I’m also not an edgelord though you are welcome to think that. I understand exactly how diversity is good and how it helps, being non white myself.
But I’ll repeat my question. How did organizations implement DEI hiring policies? How did they put what they supposedly learned in those classes in practice?
Woah there buddy, it is women who have benefited the most from DEI. Depending on your reaction to this you can tell if you are really more sexist than racist.
If you think giving a minority or women a shot at a job they would have never had the opportunity to get is racist or sexist then you have your answer.
I wish where I work would abolish it too.
Why?
A minority got promoted instead of him and he can’t admit that they deserved it.
I’m a manager who’s tired of wasting my time interviewing candidates that were picked because they are a minority but actually not qualified for the job
It’s a waste of time for me just as much as it is the candidate
Also the last unix admin I hired was black who didn’t indicate on their application that they are a minority. He got the interview and then the job because he knew how unix worked. Not because he is black. Do you follow me?
As a manager I have the ability to screen resumes and not interview people who aren’t qualified so as to not waste everyone’s time.
You need to work on your hiring process.
Do you follow me?
I don’t have a say.
Exactly. As a manager at a large company, HR feeds me resumes. That’s the process
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Because choosing people based on skin colour is racist
That’s true but that’s not what DEI is for. It’s aim is to simply be inclusive and not exclusive. DEI was never intended to be a quota or to hire someone less qualified simply because of race. That is actually racism.
Yet that’s how many orgs implemented it which is why so many people are against it. It’s not that DEI is bad, it’s that badly implemented DEI is worse than no DEI at all. But the pendulum ever swings and always with more momentum towards progress.
Utter trash. Please show me the organization that hired more women and minorities than white males.
The DEI pendelum allowed a few woman and even fewer minorities the chance at a job they could never get and now it is time to swing back to all white males again.
It is an extreme sexist and racist overreaction, end of story.
Could you explain how DEI works in practice. Not in theory or what it is supposed to do, but rather how companies implemented it and carried it out.
Sure, I do find it strange that you edgelords who seem to have a hard time with DEI training have never taken it
You take a class either independently or with a group. During this time you receive instruction explaining how all people are of value and how having a diverse range of decision makers produces better decisions.
There may be some scenarios that highlight how having, let’s say a woman in the workplace could be helpful. Imagine a bunch of men sitting around bitchinng about their wives. The women in the group explains something about how women think and the guys realize that they are misinterpreting what their wives are doing.
That is about the gist of it. In a lot of ways it is the kind of lesson you would learn in kindergarten. A lot of people never got this lesson and are extremely racist and sexist. DEI attempts to deliver the message they never got.
That doesn’t answer what I asked at all, you only answered once more what DEI is in theory. I’m also not an edgelord though you are welcome to think that. I understand exactly how diversity is good and how it helps, being non white myself.
But I’ll repeat my question. How did organizations implement DEI hiring policies? How did they put what they supposedly learned in those classes in practice?
Woah there buddy, it is women who have benefited the most from DEI. Depending on your reaction to this you can tell if you are really more sexist than racist.
Doesn’t your point simply mean DEI encourages more sexism than racism, but doesn’t actually deny it encourages racism too?
If you think giving a minority or women a shot at a job they would have never had the opportunity to get is racist or sexist then you have your answer.
I honestly don’t understand your point. Can you clarify?
You merely have to answer the question. Please state whether you feel it is sexist/racist or not.
I do think DEI programs are both racist and sexist. Now, what’s your point?
That’s sexist
You basically are saying women are inferior to men if they need to be given special consideration in the hiring process
You are the one that said they are inferior. DEI teaches us that all humans have value and that diversity is good for decision making.