• @finitebanjo
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    -21 month ago

    In a democracy giving people what they chose is good leadership.

    • @Bonskreeskreeskree
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      1 month ago

      We don’t live in a democracy and good leadership is not telling your whole team that they can get fucked because half of them made a bad decision.

      • @finitebanjo
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        Biden won the 2020 primaries by a huge margin, Trump won his primary by an even bigger margin, and Biden lost to Trump in the 2024 general WITH POPULAR VOTE.

        Thats democracy. People chose this.

        77 Million Trump voters who showed up and 6.6 Million DNC voters who stayed home, they all chose this.

        • @Bonskreeskreeskree
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          01 month ago

          Interesting you left roughly 60 million voters out of your comment that did NOT choose this.

          • @finitebanjo
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            74,749,891

            But whats it matter? The majority decides the presidency, which bills get called to vote, budgets, etc.

            It’s not enough if less than half of us aren’t complete monsters when most of us are. For the next election people need to do better, support the DNC, volunteer.

            • @Bonskreeskreeskree
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              01 month ago

              The majority does not decide us elections. The electoral college does and you can win without a majority vote of the population. And treating 74 million people like it’s their fault when they tried is the exact point I’m arguing. The dnc habitually forces their candidate on the base. Progressives don’t want to be force fed a status quo establishment figurehead that won’t change anything. The dnc should do better and they’d win by a landslide every time. Until then, it’s gonna be close calls every time and when they win presidency they won’t have enough in congress to pass shit

              • @finitebanjo
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                -11 month ago

                The popular vote went to Donald Trump, so the majority absolutely decided this US Election. The DNC selects its candidates via primary election, of which candidates like Bernie Sanders consistently lost.

                • @Bonskreeskreeskree
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                  11 month ago

                  Who won the popular vote in 2016?

                  I’d discuss the primaries of the past handful of elections with you if you were arguing in good faith, but you are not.

                  • @finitebanjo
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                    01 month ago

                    The popular vote was won by Hillary Clinton in 2016, and a partisan stance exists for removing the Electoral College system called “The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact”. If enough states joined the compact it would forever remain a thing of the past.

                    I don’t think “America reelected this felon who got in unfairly in 2016 and wrecked the place” is as good a defence of voters as you think it is.

    • @[email protected]
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      11 month ago

      Absolutely false. People are fucking morons that do not know what they need. People are good at identifying the problems that face them, experts are good at finding solutions. Good leadership in a democracy is finding experts and supporting them to find solutions for the problems constituents face.

      • @finitebanjo
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        -11 month ago

        Okay so you’re unironically arguing against actual democracy and I don’t feel the need to say anything other than that to you.