Homeopathic bullshit has no negative effect, it’s literally just water and sugar. As long as they are not prescription pills, the FDA does not regulate them because they are merely false advertising and not actually dangerous.
When done properly, it is just water. Hyland made some homeopathic teething tablets about a decade ago that used too much belladonna which killed several kids and paralyzed a few more because they did not dilute it to nothing.
In a way. We’re not all stupid, I promise. Though the billionaires keep trying to make us all ignorant. I wouldn’t be surprised if Hatch or his relatives were heavily invested in the industry at the time. Keep in mind the US isn’t the only country that sells homeopathic bullshit.
Yup, and I still think that any use of belladonna should have oversight from regulatory and medical professionals due to the fact that if you fuck up bad enough you (or others) die.
That’s like saying fire extinguishers filled with nothing but air are just false advertising. People have died taking these “treatments” when actual professional medical care would have saved them.
Only if the air is compressed. If you fill a fire extinguisher with literally just air, nothing happens if you pressed the nozzle. Everyone but you understood that. But it’s pointless to even type this as you already made up your mind, champ. Feel free to think you are a big mind.
Point in case: the dude I “rebutted” against (lol) agreed that their initial comparison (a fire extinguisher filled with gasoline) was not appropriate.
If we’re talking regular atmospheric air that has oxygen in it, blowing air can absolutely amplify a flame by providing oxygen to replace air that has already been burned. It’s very common to blow on camp fires to add heat, for example.
Needs to be pressurized. Else nothing happens (as in homeopathy where nothing happens; not sure what is hard to understand here honestly). I know how a fire works. But whatever, I’m done with this comment chain.
I wished I wouldn’t live on this planet anymore. Fuck all y’all.
Try and put out a fire with an empty fire extinguisher, tell me how far you get and whether it had a positive (less fire) or negative (same or more fire) effect.
The point is the method is not effective and allowing the problem to continue makes the problem harder to deal with.
Edit: a full fire extinguisher is pressurized unless it utilizes a hand pump, so filled with air denotes that it would be pressurized or that the medium used is air and will be pumped (which will behave like a bellows).
An unpressurized extinguisher is considered empty unless it is manually operated.
A drug is typically filled with a working agent unless it’s homeopathic and is water. The homeopathy “drug” is water, so the fire extinguisher is empty.
Look, I didn’t bring up the fucking fire extinguisher analogy, berate that other dude who initially posted it. But you won’t because you are on some kind of crusade because you think I’m defending homeopathy or some shit. No, the FDA just does not regulate advertisement of non-prescription pills. Your excruciatingly bad reading comprehension is not my problem, so stop replying to me multiple times like a badly trained bot. And now complain about ad hominem to make your bullshit feature-complete.
Yeah, but you can regulate misinformation at best, or at worst intentional disinformation, which is what’s made these people think its a legitimate path in the first llace.
That’s the way homeopathic nonsense is supposed to work. Unfortunately bullshit like this isn’t regulated properly so it often ends up being dangerous.
They are actually dangerous in the sense that people believe they are buying medicine when they are not, and therefore do not receive proper, actual life saving treatment.
Homeopathy convinces people to take a mixture that has no active ingredient instead of one that can affect what they’re sick with. If it’s a cold, eh whatever. If it’s cancer, that’s incredibly dangerous.
Homeopathic bullshit has no negative effect, it’s literally just water and sugar. As long as they are not prescription pills, the FDA does not regulate them because they are merely false advertising and not actually dangerous.
When done properly, it is just water. Hyland made some homeopathic teething tablets about a decade ago that used too much belladonna which killed several kids and paralyzed a few more because they did not dilute it to nothing.
That’s just murder and pretty sure the FDA pulled those.
Why was it allowed to get to market in the first place? Why were they allowed to use belladonna at all ( a known poison) without oversight?
Because Orrin Hatch pushed the “supplements” act back in the 1990s.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietary_Supplement_Health_and_Education_Act_of_1994
Ah, so typical american ignorance
In a way. We’re not all stupid, I promise. Though the billionaires keep trying to make us all ignorant. I wouldn’t be surprised if Hatch or his relatives were heavily invested in the industry at the time. Keep in mind the US isn’t the only country that sells homeopathic bullshit.
Yeah, my mistake. I should have said typical general ignorance.
Belladonna has actual medical use tho. It’s applied to dilate the pupils, so maybe they declared it wrong?
Yup, and I still think that any use of belladonna should have oversight from regulatory and medical professionals due to the fact that if you fuck up bad enough you (or others) die.
That’s like saying fire extinguishers filled with nothing but air are just false advertising. People have died taking these “treatments” when actual professional medical care would have saved them.
It would be more akin to fire extinguishers filled with air. It doesn’t accelerate illnesses any more than doing absolutely fucking nothing would.
A fire extinguisher filled with air can make a fire much larger.
That wasn’t a rebuttal, it was an admission of ignorance.
Only if the air is compressed. If you fill a fire extinguisher with literally just air, nothing happens if you pressed the nozzle. Everyone but you understood that. But it’s pointless to even type this as you already made up your mind, champ. Feel free to think you are a big mind.
Point in case: the dude I “rebutted” against (lol) agreed that their initial comparison (a fire extinguisher filled with gasoline) was not appropriate.
If we’re talking regular atmospheric air that has oxygen in it, blowing air can absolutely amplify a flame by providing oxygen to replace air that has already been burned. It’s very common to blow on camp fires to add heat, for example.
Needs to be pressurized. Else nothing happens (as in homeopathy where nothing happens; not sure what is hard to understand here honestly). I know how a fire works. But whatever, I’m done with this comment chain.
I wished I wouldn’t live on this planet anymore. Fuck all y’all.
Try and put out a fire with an empty fire extinguisher, tell me how far you get and whether it had a positive (less fire) or negative (same or more fire) effect.
The point is the method is not effective and allowing the problem to continue makes the problem harder to deal with.
Edit: a full fire extinguisher is pressurized unless it utilizes a hand pump, so filled with air denotes that it would be pressurized or that the medium used is air and will be pumped (which will behave like a bellows).
An unpressurized extinguisher is considered empty unless it is manually operated.
A drug is typically filled with a working agent unless it’s homeopathic and is water. The homeopathy “drug” is water, so the fire extinguisher is empty.
Look, I didn’t bring up the fucking fire extinguisher analogy, berate that other dude who initially posted it. But you won’t because you are on some kind of crusade because you think I’m defending homeopathy or some shit. No, the FDA just does not regulate advertisement of non-prescription pills. Your excruciatingly bad reading comprehension is not my problem, so stop replying to me multiple times like a badly trained bot. And now complain about ad hominem to make your bullshit feature-complete.
ah i see where you said that. bit confusingly written but you are correct.
You apparently don’t know how extinguishers work.
Not being able to put out a fire isn’t the absence of a negative effect. It allows the fire to grow larger. Which is a negative effect.
Yeah I made an edit literally exactly same time as your comment as I thought about it.
You can lead a horse to water but you can’t force people to seek legitimate medical help if they don’t want to.
Yeah, but you can regulate misinformation at best, or at worst intentional disinformation, which is what’s made these people think its a legitimate path in the first llace.
That’s the way homeopathic nonsense is supposed to work. Unfortunately bullshit like this isn’t regulated properly so it often ends up being dangerous.
https://www.fda.gov/drugs/understanding-over-counter-medicines/some-homeopathic-products-may-put-you-risk
https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/09/fda-warns-of-life-threatening-infections-from-contaminated-nasal-spray/
https://www.fda.gov/safety/recalls-market-withdrawals-safety-alerts/standard-homeopathic-company-issues-nationwide-recall-hylands-baby-teething-tablets-and-hylands-baby
They are actually dangerous in the sense that people believe they are buying medicine when they are not, and therefore do not receive proper, actual life saving treatment.
It doesn’t help when this crap is legitimized by being sold in actual drug stores like Walgreens.
Often right next to real medicine.
Homeopathy convinces people to take a mixture that has no active ingredient instead of one that can affect what they’re sick with. If it’s a cold, eh whatever. If it’s cancer, that’s incredibly dangerous.