Apparently “nationalism is bad” is an uncivil take. Unless there’s another reason someone would ban this comment… 🤔

  • @UnderpantsWeevil
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    -3217 hours ago

    The brainwashed ideologies in Chinese Students

    sigh

    During the first year of the Korean War, Edward Hunter, an American journalist who had worked in wartime intelligence, and post-war with the CIA, coined (or, more accurately, first popularised) the term brainwashing

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Hunter_(journalist)#Journalism

    In March 1958, Hunter testified before the US House of Representatives’ House Committee on Un-American Activities. He described the US and NATO as losing the Cold War because of the communists’ advantage in propaganda and psychological manipulation. He felt that the West lost the Korean War for being unwilling to use its advantage in atomic weapons

    It’s a bit funny to hear people use the term without recognizing it’s tortured and sensationalist history. “We’ve been tricked into not kicking off a nuclear war” isn’t what most people think of when they hear “brainwashing”. But during the height of the Red Scare, that’s what Goldwater conservatives and John Bircher reactionaries were arguing for.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      1113 hours ago

      That’s very interesting, and I genuinely do appreciate the history lesson, but what exactly are you trying to communicate? That brainwashing is only possible in North America because that’s the population it was coined for? That the act only constitutes brainwashing if it’s coupled with calls for violence? That brainwashing is a strictly government term and using it colloquially has no meaning? That I should fully detail every term with a unique historical significant etymology?

      There’s a lot of weird insinuations and half takes that don’t add up to a complete idea in this post.

      • @UnderpantsWeevil
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        11 hour ago

        The term is an invention of propaganda used to dismiss outside views. You’ll see it in the Christian community to describe why kids come out as gay or transgender as often as by state officials describing why foreigners stubbornly refuse to accept Western economic orthodoxy.

        There’s a lot of weird insinuations and half takes that don’t add up

        To understand why a CIA agent would describe people critical of the Korean War as unable to think for themselves, you do need to learn about the Red Scare first.

        If things don’t add up, go out and fill in more of the variables.

    • @theunknownmuncher
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      3017 hours ago

      Brainwashed is the appropriate term to describe nationalistic ideology, yes

      • @PugJesusM
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        2416 hours ago

        No no, nationalism is freethinking because [checks notes] an American in the Cold War was a lunatic.

        • @theunknownmuncher
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          conflates two completely different points about propaganda and losing-because-not-using-nukes together

    • @PugJesusM
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      1316 hours ago

      It was Hunter’s variation of the Chinese term “xinao”, meaning “cleaning the brain.”

    • @motor_spirit
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      1316 hours ago

      social situations must be exhausting in your life huh

      • @UnderpantsWeevil
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        11 hour ago

        I’ve definitely upset a lot of people with a little bit of history.