Just opening discussion, haha!

I mean if non-proton conversation isn’t allowed, I’m just comparing, haha lol!

Okay seriously though.

The three services I’m exploring are:

  • Email (with email aliases)
  • VPN
  • Cloud Storage
  • @[email protected]
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    181 day ago

    Email:

    VPN:

    • astrill (expensive but awesome)
    • mullvad

    Cloud storage:

    Rent a small server / vps and set up your own nextcloud instance. Even some packages meant for webhosting work, as long as you can install custom php applications. I’m using all-inkl.com (private plus package) and got 500GB allocated to my nextcloud instance.

    • Andromxda 🇺🇦🇵🇸🇹🇼
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      81 day ago

      astrill (expensive but awesome)

      Rule No. 1 when it comes to VPNs: NEVER trust a VPN service that claims to be anonymous. VPNs aren’t anonymous. Only Tor is anonymous.

      • @[email protected]
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        623 hours ago

        Likewise, never trust that tor is completely anonymous. There are a limited number of tor nodes, and an extremely limited number of exit nodes. The barrier to entry to stand up thousands of nodes is simply a cash problem. It certainly beyond the reach of most corporations, But I wouldn’t want to do anything on tor that would draw the ire of a large government agency.

      • @[email protected]
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        117 hours ago

        They all claim to be anonymous. And yeah, nobody can independently validate the no logs policy, even Mullvad that has been security audited doesn’t let anyone near their production environment, so what they release to the testers might not be identical to what they use live.

        Calling TOR anonymous is a big stretch through, a bunch of commits to the code have been traced back to the CIA if I remember correctly, and various intelligence agencies worldwide are running exit nodes and log everything they can get their hands on. Whether they can decrypt it with current tech is another story, but you better believe they don’t just delete it.

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        517 hours ago

        They run a proprietary protocol that works in China and Saudi Arabia, where other protocols are known not to work. I’ve lived in China for 7 years, and Astrill never once let me down, while Express, Nord, Proton and a bunch of others hardly ever worked.

      • Andromxda 🇺🇦🇵🇸🇹🇼
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        1024 hours ago

        Their absolute BS marketing. They claim to make you anonymous, which is impossible for a VPN provider. Never trust a service that claims such bullshit.