As someone in the [email protected] thread said, once could be explained as an impulsive stupid kid. Two separate occasions shows deliberate intent to cause serious harm or death.
While I wouldn’t say they’re totally irredeemable, this is easily serious enough to warrant a significant gaol sentence, not merely a therapist while being otherwise on his own recognisance.
What do you anticipate the likely outcome of a gaol sentence early in life to be? If it’s not recidivism I would suggest you study criminology some. Fuck even my bastard of a BIL cop prosecutor recognises that sending kids to gaol just gets them coming back again and again.
Revenge is a childish desire. Uninformed punishment is just revenge torture. Any civilised justice system, or perhaps more truthful a properly uncivilised one, should have harm reduction and restitution as the goal. Not satisfying bloodlust.
edit: Jesus Christ I am disgusted by the violent authoritarianism. If you want to start throwing a kid in gaol I tell you now it would be kinder to look him in the eyes and stab him through the heart. You will fuck up multiple lives, this is not a matter of opinion it is fact. If he is to contribute to society and do stuff like pay back the destroyed bikes he must work. Violent and antisocial tendencies only get worse in gaol, if you think he can’t be helped then you are literally advocating for lifelong torture for crimes committed during an extremely impulsive phase of life before his self control is even fully developed and frankly that is evil and you are disgusting.
I support radical reform of our justice system, to follow something more like the Nordic model.
But in the meantime, violent offenders can’t just be set free. The justice system should seek rehabilitation, yes, but also prevent reoffending. And someone who has already reoffended after the dangerous consequences have been revealed has clearly demonstrated that there is a need to prevent reoffending. This isn’t a non-violent offence like theft. The offender (whether it’s the arrested 18-year-old or not) needs to be prevented from harming, or potentially killing, someone more than he already has.
This goes extra if, as is likely the case, the crime was committed with hate against a vulnerable group as the motive.
As someone in the [email protected] thread said, once could be explained as an impulsive stupid kid. Two separate occasions shows deliberate intent to cause serious harm or death.
While I wouldn’t say they’re totally irredeemable, this is easily serious enough to warrant a significant gaol sentence, not merely a therapist while being otherwise on his own recognisance.
(link to that comment for convenient clicking: https://aussie.zone/comment/14281715 )
What do you anticipate the likely outcome of a gaol sentence early in life to be? If it’s not recidivism I would suggest you study criminology some. Fuck even my bastard of a BIL cop prosecutor recognises that sending kids to gaol just gets them coming back again and again.
Revenge is a childish desire. Uninformed punishment is just revenge torture. Any civilised justice system, or perhaps more truthful a properly uncivilised one, should have harm reduction and restitution as the goal. Not satisfying bloodlust.
edit: Jesus Christ I am disgusted by the violent authoritarianism. If you want to start throwing a kid in gaol I tell you now it would be kinder to look him in the eyes and stab him through the heart. You will fuck up multiple lives, this is not a matter of opinion it is fact. If he is to contribute to society and do stuff like pay back the destroyed bikes he must work. Violent and antisocial tendencies only get worse in gaol, if you think he can’t be helped then you are literally advocating for lifelong torture for crimes committed during an extremely impulsive phase of life before his self control is even fully developed and frankly that is evil and you are disgusting.
I support radical reform of our justice system, to follow something more like the Nordic model.
But in the meantime, violent offenders can’t just be set free. The justice system should seek rehabilitation, yes, but also prevent reoffending. And someone who has already reoffended after the dangerous consequences have been revealed has clearly demonstrated that there is a need to prevent reoffending. This isn’t a non-violent offence like theft. The offender (whether it’s the arrested 18-year-old or not) needs to be prevented from harming, or potentially killing, someone more than he already has.
This goes extra if, as is likely the case, the crime was committed with hate against a vulnerable group as the motive.