A majority of Americans across nearly all demographic groups said DEI initiatives have made no impact on their personal careers, according to a newly released Harris Poll/Axios Vibes survey.

Why it matters: Republican lawmakers and activists have vilified DEI, a term for diversity, equity and inclusion policies used by employers. Companies have responded by rolling back programs.

  • Yet Americans — and businesses — have a generally positive to at least indifferent view on the subject.
  • On balance, most demographic groups were more likely to say DEI benefited their career than hindered it.
  • FaceDeer
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    213 hours ago

    But your objection to people who are not white and heteronormative in the media is noted.

    And here’s why this is such a dangerous topic to touch on, it instantly becomes “us vs them” and you see a fight to be fought even when it’s not actually there.

    I made no such objection.

    • Flying Squid
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      This is what you said:

      A lot of recent TV shows, movies, and video games have had their creators publicly blaming “anti-woke backlash” for poor performances. The creators themselves are saying this so I would assume they’ve got some basis for it, and if that’s the case then in those instances implementing visible DEI efforts is narrowing the customer base.

      So you’re saying [what you think is] DEI causes poor performances but you don’t object to it?

      • FaceDeer
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        212 hours ago

        Yes.

        It’s a true fact that a hospital could cut its costs tremendously if they were to secretly euthanize people with terminal illnesses. Stating this fact does not mean that I am in favor of secretly euthanizing people with terminal illnesses. It happens to be quite the opposite.

        In one of my other comments in this thread I said what I’d like to see:

        Personally, I wish that companies would just go ahead and do their best to not be biased in who they employ and who they cater to, and that that would be enough.

        • Flying Squid
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          Okay? What does that have to do with diversity in movies resulting in movies with untalented actors?

          • FaceDeer
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            112 hours ago

            It doesn’t have anything to do with that. You’ve brought things into the discussion that I have not said anything about.

            This is the statement that I was responding to:

            DEI generates more revenue because it broadens customer bases.

            And I pointed out that it doesn’t always broaden the customer base, it sometimes narrows it. There are customers who will avoid a product that is associated with DEI initiatives.

            I’m not saying they should or shouldn’t. I’m not even saying why they would avoid it, or why they would claim to avoid it. Just that in some situations DEI initiatives don’t broaden the customer base.

            • Flying Squid
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              You literally said that:

              Not necessarily. A lot of recent TV shows, movies, and video games have had their creators publicly blaming “anti-woke backlash” for poor performances.

              So again, what does this have to do with the talent of actors in movies?

              • FaceDeer
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                212 hours ago

                Oh, I think I may have figured out where the misunderstanding lies. You think that when I said “poor performances” I was talking about acting performances. I was talking about performance at the box office.

                Studios don’t really care about the quality of the performance, they just care about the profit.

                • Flying Squid
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                  112 hours ago

                  Ah, okay. I get it now. Thanks for clearing that up.

                  • FaceDeer
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                    211 hours ago

                    No problem. Didn’t occur to me that “performance” had a double meaning when it came to commercial media like TV and movies.

      • @Feathercrown
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        212 hours ago

        That seems consistent. Why would they care if companies lose money on DEI? It’s about what’s right, not what’s economically viable.

        • Flying Squid
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          What does losing money have to do with performances in a movie unless the performances are bad ones?

          • @Feathercrown
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            212 hours ago

            I believe they meant performance as in box office performance, like, how much money the movie makes.

            • Flying Squid
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              112 hours ago

              I guess it’s up to them to clear that up.

              • @Feathercrown
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                I’m sure they will. I’m pretty sure I’m right though-- how could backlash to the movie affect the actors’ performances in that movie? That makes no sense. Backlash affects the reception to the movie, which affects the profit. If you reread the thread with that definition in mind, the replies to your comments might seem more reasonable/coherent.

                • Flying Squid
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                  112 hours ago

                  No one is interpreting it that way.

                  What it looked like to me was that they were saying to me was that diversity meant that bad actors were hired.

                  • @Feathercrown
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                    I hope that wasn’t what they meant