It’s my opinion that “mannerisms” don’t really hold much weight, same with “intelligence.” The remaining two are weight and color, and there’s absolutely nothing saying it can’t be both.
Asian people don’t actually visually look yellow, that’s just racist charicature. If the comparisons are purely visual then it would be about his weight, especially around his face.
And the comparisons aren’t necessarily only visual. Winnie the Pooh has a well-known personality and behaviors, and as a meme there isn’t necessarily a re-comparison being made every time it’s reposted. Note that Pooh images are more popular than any other comparisons, because it’s an existing meme.
I think you’re tying yourself into a logical pretzel here, are you going to tell me blackface isn’t racist because nearly nobody has that pure black use in minstrel shows? This seems like incredible displays of mental gymnastics, rather than taking occams razor.
Fair enough. However, I think it’s worth pointing out that the most vocal users of such iconography, when confronted with even the possibility that it may in fact be racist to depict a chinese man as a yellow bear (curiously, usually depicted wearing a red shirt, like the flag of the PRC), they tie themselves into frothing logical pretzels to defend their usage, rather than shifting to any other clearly non-racist yet still insulting caricature.
Note: absolutely not saying the author of Pooh was making anti-China iconography way back when, I am pointing out modern usage.
It’s my opinion that “mannerisms” don’t really hold much weight, same with “intelligence.” The remaining two are weight and color, and there’s absolutely nothing saying it can’t be both.
You don’t think that it’s insulting to be compared to a goofy character with very low intelligence?
I don’t think it’s likely that those were the intentions. They don’t visually stand out, yet the visual comparisons remain.
Asian people don’t actually visually look yellow, that’s just racist charicature. If the comparisons are purely visual then it would be about his weight, especially around his face.
And the comparisons aren’t necessarily only visual. Winnie the Pooh has a well-known personality and behaviors, and as a meme there isn’t necessarily a re-comparison being made every time it’s reposted. Note that Pooh images are more popular than any other comparisons, because it’s an existing meme.
I think you’re tying yourself into a logical pretzel here, are you going to tell me blackface isn’t racist because nearly nobody has that pure black use in minstrel shows? This seems like incredible displays of mental gymnastics, rather than taking occams razor.
I don’t agree that racism is the simplest explanation. I could be wrong, but it isn’t how I’ve seen the image be used.
How have you seen the image being used in a manner that makes other explanations more likely?
No. Like I said, I think your explanation could also make sense. It’s just not the assumption that I made.
Fair enough. However, I think it’s worth pointing out that the most vocal users of such iconography, when confronted with even the possibility that it may in fact be racist to depict a chinese man as a yellow bear (curiously, usually depicted wearing a red shirt, like the flag of the PRC), they tie themselves into frothing logical pretzels to defend their usage, rather than shifting to any other clearly non-racist yet still insulting caricature.
Note: absolutely not saying the author of Pooh was making anti-China iconography way back when, I am pointing out modern usage.