• @[email protected]
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    19 hours ago

    I would include any phone that doesn’t have basic features like a headphone jack or a SD card in the “shitty phone” category. Pixel phones come to mind.

    • @9tr6gyp3
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      -214 hours ago

      Uh, Android supports using sdcards, 3.5mm headphone jacks, and also nvme drives. Literally just get any usb-c adapter for your use case.

      Id go for an nvme drives over sdcards though.

      • @[email protected]
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        614 hours ago

        Using any kind of adaptor for features that have been and still easily could be native is shitty.

        • @9tr6gyp3
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          013 hours ago

          Id rather have a good ip68 rated phone with shitty adapters than a shitty phone with native 3.5mm port and sdcard slot, but to each their own.

          • @lurklurk
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            55 hours ago

            The removal of headphone jacks or sdcards have nothing to do with ip68 rating. It’s to sell adapters and to make you pay a lot for extra storage

            • @9tr6gyp3
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              Oh man, FYI you can’t get an IP68 rating with a headphone jack alone unless you manually cover the slot each time.

              • nikki
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                232 minutes ago

                say that to my xperia with ip68 and a headphone jack, or my s9+ which had ip68 and a headphone jack, or my s7 that had ip68 and a headphone jack, or…

                • @9tr6gyp3
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                  119 minutes ago

                  Ok, I’ll say that to your xperia, s9+, and s7

                  Per manufacturer’s website for xperia:

                  This device is water resistant and protected against dust. All ports and attached covers should be firmly closed. Do not put the device completely underwater or expose it to seawater, salt water, chlorinated water or liquids such as drinks. Abuse and improper use of device will invalidate the limited warranty. The device has been tested under Ingress Protection rating IP65/68. Sony devices that are tested for their water-resistant abilities are placed gently inside a container filled with tap water and lowered to a depth of 1.5 meters. After 30 minutes in the container, the device is gently taken out and its functions and features are tested. Note this model has a capless USB port to connect and charge. The USB port needs to be completely dry before charging.

                  Per manufacturer’s website for s9+:

                  Water-resistant and dustproof based on IP67 Rating, which tests submersion up to 1 meter for up to 30 minutes. Not shockproof.

                  Per manufacturer’s website for s7:

                  Water-resistant and dustproof based on IP67 Rating, which tests submersion up to 1 meter for up to 30 minutes. Not shockproof.

              • @lurklurk
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                Asus zenphone 10, for example. IP68, headphone jack

                I’m sure there are and have been others

                • @9tr6gyp3
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                  Its IP65 if the headphone jack isnt covered. Per the manufacturer’s website for this phone model:

                  The device has been tested for water resistance using IEC 60529 standard and has achieved an IP65/68 rating. Water and dust resistance can deteriorate over time in normal usage, or if the device is damaged, repaired or taken apart. The device should never be completely submerged underwater, and should not be allowed to come into contact with seawater, brine, chlorinated water or drinks. Failure to observe correct precautions will invalidate the device warranty and the function of water and dust resistance. Water resistance is tested by submerging the device to a depth of 1.5 meters in tap water for 30 minutes. After the test the device is removed and fully dried, then checked for normal operation. Please note that the device has a USB-C charging port, and this USB-C port must be completely dry before any attempt is made at charging. For related warranty information, please refer to the product warranty card.

                  • @lurklurk
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                    18 minutes ago

                    I don’t see that mentioning anything about covering the headphone jack before the test. As I understand it, being ip65/68 means it’s both, where 65 is “low power spray” and 68 is “immersion”, not that it’s 68 only if some unspecified conditions are applied

                • @9tr6gyp3
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                  118 minutes ago

                  For which phone model would you like me to look up the manufacturer’s website for you?

      • @[email protected]
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        213 hours ago

        I don’t want to have to carry a dongle around to use things that should be built into the phone.

        • @9tr6gyp3
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          -113 hours ago

          Id rather have a good ip68 rated phone with adapters than a shitty phone with native 3.5mm port and sdcard slot, but to each their own.

          • @[email protected]
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            113 hours ago

            I’ve needed my phone to be water proof exactly once in the 20ish years that I’ve had one and that was in 2006. I think I’ll manage without it. I use my headphone jack and SD slot every day.