Wagner was off my radar, but just based on stats I’m not super impressed? Like, I understand relievers aren’t held to the same standard as SPs, and a 2.3 career ERA is damn good… But half as much bWAR as Mariano? How is that not Hall of Very Good material?
Like Adam Wainwright, who won’t even whiff the hall, provided more WAR in half the games just by eating innings…
Fair enough. I’m not really a fan of saves as a stat, like wins they seem a bit too arbitrary/contextual vs. actually measuring the outcome of pitching, but I’m also not a small hall type so sure.
Wagner was off my radar, but just based on stats I’m not super impressed? Like, I understand relievers aren’t held to the same standard as SPs, and a 2.3 career ERA is damn good… But half as much bWAR as Mariano? How is that not Hall of Very Good material?
Like Adam Wainwright, who won’t even whiff the hall, provided more WAR in half the games just by eating innings…
He’s 8th in overall career saves. That’s pretty elite.
Fair enough. I’m not really a fan of saves as a stat, like wins they seem a bit too arbitrary/contextual vs. actually measuring the outcome of pitching, but I’m also not a small hall type so sure.