Yeah for real. If he had just kept making overpriced unreliable EVs and sending rockets to space people would probably still view him mostly favorably. But now he’s pissed off most people to varying degrees.
My biggest gripe with him is he calls himself a free speech absolutionist and he is most certainly not a fucking free speech absolutionist. Dude bought twitter and immediately started using it to silence people he didn’t like and elevate people he liked. Fuckin tool.
You can’t really pick and choose with free speech. It’s sorta all or nothing with these things. If you say “well let’s make a few rules about these words”. Who decides which words? Do they ever get updated? Does each banned word or phrase get voted for if it stays banned or not? Is this a federal crime or a state issue? What’s the punishment?
I think the current system of all things are legally fair game, but socially some things shouldn’t be said or used in certain ways is perfectly fine. It sorta self updates and corrects with time, but it leaves open the option to say anything if need be.
I understand people not liking certain language, but often times they don’t see the issue with legally banning things they don’t like. They aren’t thinking ahead to the possibility where there are things they would like to say and now cannot.
It isn’t all or nothing. The line is easy. We have lines currently. You can’t say you’re going to go murder someone with the intent and ability to do it. That’s illegal.
Oh ffs not this free speech dance again. Yes you can’t make threats against people. That’s not protected speech that’s just a threat. In that case none of the words are against the law to use, but it’s how you combined them and directed them at someone that becomes illegal. You also can’t yell fire in a crowded building as that is considered inciting a riot or whatever. Again the words themselves are not against the law it’s when and how they are used that is an issue.
Yeah for real. If he had just kept making overpriced unreliable EVs and sending rockets to space people would probably still view him mostly favorably. But now he’s pissed off most people to varying degrees.
My biggest gripe with him is he calls himself a free speech absolutionist and he is most certainly not a fucking free speech absolutionist. Dude bought twitter and immediately started using it to silence people he didn’t like and elevate people he liked. Fuckin tool.
I hate the term for free speech. While I strongly believe in free speech. Nothing is absolute nor should it be.
You can’t really pick and choose with free speech. It’s sorta all or nothing with these things. If you say “well let’s make a few rules about these words”. Who decides which words? Do they ever get updated? Does each banned word or phrase get voted for if it stays banned or not? Is this a federal crime or a state issue? What’s the punishment?
I think the current system of all things are legally fair game, but socially some things shouldn’t be said or used in certain ways is perfectly fine. It sorta self updates and corrects with time, but it leaves open the option to say anything if need be.
I understand people not liking certain language, but often times they don’t see the issue with legally banning things they don’t like. They aren’t thinking ahead to the possibility where there are things they would like to say and now cannot.
It isn’t all or nothing. The line is easy. We have lines currently. You can’t say you’re going to go murder someone with the intent and ability to do it. That’s illegal.
Oh ffs not this free speech dance again. Yes you can’t make threats against people. That’s not protected speech that’s just a threat. In that case none of the words are against the law to use, but it’s how you combined them and directed them at someone that becomes illegal. You also can’t yell fire in a crowded building as that is considered inciting a riot or whatever. Again the words themselves are not against the law it’s when and how they are used that is an issue.