“I think a lot of the corporate world is pretty culturally neutered. Masculine energy is good, and obviously, society has plenty of that, but I think corporate culture was really trying to get away from it. I think having a culture that celebrates the aggression a bit more has its own merits that are really positive.”
This is the full quote. It’s very hard to disagree with what he’s saying, imo. If half your employees aren’t acting the way they do in private, they’re putting on a mask and not being their true selves
He’s saying we need toxic masculinity in the work place because misogynists being punished have had their feelings hurt. He just wants a “boys will be boys” toxic work culture to fuel his lack of self worth and insecurity.
It’s normal and very useful to reserve some types of behavior for the right occasions. You can let out your natural aggression while doing sports, just like you let out your sexual energy at home with your partner (or by yourself). No need to do everything at work, that would turn your work behavior toxic to your coworkers.
If half your employees aren’t acting the way they do in private, they’re putting on a mask and not being their true selves
But you’re making this point in defense of someone aligning themselves with a group who targets trans, women, and whoever else they can bully not like them for being their true selves… Do you not see the hypocrisy of such a point given the context of the quote?
You think celebrating aggressiveness in the workplace anywhere is good? IMO anyone who beats their partner or gets drunk and starts bar fights should be punished, not celebrated.
Tech bros behaving on the work floor like they do in private is why we have turned to a culturally neutered workplace. These men don’t know how to behave professionally around women.
This is the full quote. It’s very hard to disagree with what he’s saying, imo. If half your employees aren’t acting the way they do in private, they’re putting on a mask and not being their true selves
He’s saying we need toxic masculinity in the work place because misogynists being punished have had their feelings hurt. He just wants a “boys will be boys” toxic work culture to fuel his lack of self worth and insecurity.
It’s normal and very useful to reserve some types of behavior for the right occasions. You can let out your natural aggression while doing sports, just like you let out your sexual energy at home with your partner (or by yourself). No need to do everything at work, that would turn your work behavior toxic to your coworkers.
But you’re making this point in defense of someone aligning themselves with a group who targets trans, women, and whoever else they can bully not like them for being their true selves… Do you not see the hypocrisy of such a point given the context of the quote?
You think celebrating aggressiveness in the
workplaceanywhere is good? IMO anyone who beats their partner or gets drunk and starts bar fights should be punished, not celebrated.You think masculinity means beating your partner?
No but I do think aggression is aggression, and the original quote mentions aggression.
Let’s not kid ourselves, when these people talk about masculinity, they bemoan that they can’t beat their partners.
Tech bros behaving on the work floor like they do in private is why we have turned to a culturally neutered workplace. These men don’t know how to behave professionally around women.
No. Zuck is just a bully bemoaning that some people still stand up to him.
Making people behave like normal human beings for 8 hours a day is a net benefit for society overall.