I made a similar comment in another thread about this.
Anytime something like this happens where it is clear that they are doing it for a specific reason (regardless of whatever garbage excuse they make) they should be required to pay at a bare minimum one years salary to every employee at their current or a higher rate to offset the loss of their job due to corporate greed.
I also think the CEO should be arrested, and fuck it, while we’re at it, any shares that they have in the company should be sold off and either given to the employees in an even split, or given to local unions and programs that support the local workforce.
Fuck these greedy ass little bitches and their investors. Tank their fucking stock and throw them in jail.
Globalization is collective bargaining in reverse. As we see here, if you unionize, the company just moves somewhere else. If you passed any of the laws you propose here, the company would simply avoid Canada all together. The outcome of that, zero jobs, is the same as what is happening now. Not an improvement.
As long as there are “other” workers and jurisdictions lining up to replace us, that “willing” replacement labour is the problem. It will be robots soon.
By the way, you get “arrested” for breaking the law. The “legal” responsibility of the CEO is to maximum returns for investors. We live in a system where the laws are the exact opposite of what you are proposing.
I do not see a legal solution that helps. A social movement will not help.
That is an absolutely fair assessment and you are right.
I think there could be some wiggle room in terms of legality here though, the issue is global enforcement.
Sure, the CEO is responsible for maximizing profits, but when they lay off potentially thousands of people, essentially union busting at the highest level, they should be arrested and jailed. Following orders is not an excuse. “I shot that kid because my commander told me to, even though we had no proper intel and there was no sign of imminent danger” turns into “I just possibly made 1000 people lose their homes and many of them could potentially lose their life due to duress from my actions because someone wanted to make a million dollars more”. So fuck it, if someone dies due to a chain reaction of events that all started when they lost their job, let’s charge the CEO with murder, and since it’s all coming from the investors, let’s charge them with murder too since they are the ones giving the orders.
Anybody making more than a million dollars a year needs to be held to such a high standard that makes their life extremely uncomfortable, until the point where humans live on an equal scale. That will never happen though.
At the end of the day I’m not arguing with you at all. I agree with you. The investors are one of if not the main root problem and we absolutely live in a society that promotes this.
I am absolutely disgusted by how things are in the world today. Nobody is perfect and we all make mistakes, but these oligarchs are not making mistakes. They don’t care, and they need to pay for their actions.
Edit just because: I know that my thought process is way out there, and we will never have things work in a way that benefits everyone, but it’s very disheartening to see people suffer. It makes me seethe with rage at how this stuff just continues to be allowed to degrade society and human rights just so some selfish fucks can have more money than they will ever be able to spend. So a touch of wishful thinking and a sprinkle of hope, with a whole lotta rage is my mind. I just want to be able to raise my kid and not have to worry about the shit situation they will probably have to deal with 20 years from now. Or not see kids sleeping under bridges by themselves or hear/see any other of the absolutely irrational things going on in the world because of people in power. It fucking hurts.
The smartest part of this comment is “and their investors”. The CEO makes us mad be he is a distraction. This behaviour is driven by the desire to increase return for investors. The CEO is just one of them. The company has to do what investors want. This is probably what they want.
We cannot “tank the stock” unless we sell it. So, again, this is an action by investors.
Unless you just want something to be mad about, stay focussed on the actual problem.
I made a similar comment in another thread about this.
Anytime something like this happens where it is clear that they are doing it for a specific reason (regardless of whatever garbage excuse they make) they should be required to pay at a bare minimum one years salary to every employee at their current or a higher rate to offset the loss of their job due to corporate greed.
I also think the CEO should be arrested, and fuck it, while we’re at it, any shares that they have in the company should be sold off and either given to the employees in an even split, or given to local unions and programs that support the local workforce.
Fuck these greedy ass little bitches and their investors. Tank their fucking stock and throw them in jail.
I did not want to mix this with my other comment.
Globalization is collective bargaining in reverse. As we see here, if you unionize, the company just moves somewhere else. If you passed any of the laws you propose here, the company would simply avoid Canada all together. The outcome of that, zero jobs, is the same as what is happening now. Not an improvement.
As long as there are “other” workers and jurisdictions lining up to replace us, that “willing” replacement labour is the problem. It will be robots soon.
By the way, you get “arrested” for breaking the law. The “legal” responsibility of the CEO is to maximum returns for investors. We live in a system where the laws are the exact opposite of what you are proposing.
I do not see a legal solution that helps. A social movement will not help.
The only solution is investors.
That is an absolutely fair assessment and you are right.
I think there could be some wiggle room in terms of legality here though, the issue is global enforcement.
Sure, the CEO is responsible for maximizing profits, but when they lay off potentially thousands of people, essentially union busting at the highest level, they should be arrested and jailed. Following orders is not an excuse. “I shot that kid because my commander told me to, even though we had no proper intel and there was no sign of imminent danger” turns into “I just possibly made 1000 people lose their homes and many of them could potentially lose their life due to duress from my actions because someone wanted to make a million dollars more”. So fuck it, if someone dies due to a chain reaction of events that all started when they lost their job, let’s charge the CEO with murder, and since it’s all coming from the investors, let’s charge them with murder too since they are the ones giving the orders.
Anybody making more than a million dollars a year needs to be held to such a high standard that makes their life extremely uncomfortable, until the point where humans live on an equal scale. That will never happen though.
At the end of the day I’m not arguing with you at all. I agree with you. The investors are one of if not the main root problem and we absolutely live in a society that promotes this.
I am absolutely disgusted by how things are in the world today. Nobody is perfect and we all make mistakes, but these oligarchs are not making mistakes. They don’t care, and they need to pay for their actions.
Edit just because: I know that my thought process is way out there, and we will never have things work in a way that benefits everyone, but it’s very disheartening to see people suffer. It makes me seethe with rage at how this stuff just continues to be allowed to degrade society and human rights just so some selfish fucks can have more money than they will ever be able to spend. So a touch of wishful thinking and a sprinkle of hope, with a whole lotta rage is my mind. I just want to be able to raise my kid and not have to worry about the shit situation they will probably have to deal with 20 years from now. Or not see kids sleeping under bridges by themselves or hear/see any other of the absolutely irrational things going on in the world because of people in power. It fucking hurts.
The smartest part of this comment is “and their investors”. The CEO makes us mad be he is a distraction. This behaviour is driven by the desire to increase return for investors. The CEO is just one of them. The company has to do what investors want. This is probably what they want.
We cannot “tank the stock” unless we sell it. So, again, this is an action by investors.
Unless you just want something to be mad about, stay focussed on the actual problem.