• @iopq
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    12 days ago

    No, you need someone more charismatic than that

    Obama won both terms easily. Even Biden won, although it was closer

    • @[email protected]
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      22 days ago

      Biden only won because we were in the middle of the pandemic and the economy was in the shitter and even then it was by a razor thin margin. Obama was charismatic and had a lot of us believing change would happen in 2008 but it never really came. In 2012 he beat Romney who was also milquetoast but most of the enthusiasm for him was gone by that point.

      • @iopq
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        22 days ago

        He beat Romney even harder, it was a blowout. Why can’t Democrats find a candidate that replicates this success?

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          12 days ago

          I don’t think they want to if it means they’ll have to actually live up to the party’s stated ideals rather than Republican-lite ideals. That’s why they back the Bidens, Clintons, and Harris’ of the party instead of the AOCs or Sanders of the party.

          • @iopq
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            12 days ago

            If you run a left-leaning candidate then the Republicans would call them woke and socialist. The average voter is clearly not a fan. Especially men, no matter how much Democrats try to pretend otherwise

            • @Glemek
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              21 day ago

              They have called hillary clinton, joe biden, and kamala harris woke and socialists. They will do that to literally anyone. As long as the dem candidates are bad policy communicators those labels will stick and be perceived as negative.

              • @iopq
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                21 day ago

                Kamala Harris famously advocated for banning fracking, co-sponsored Medicare for all, endorsed a mandatory gun buyback program, etc.

                Of course she changed her views when running for president, but she had a very short time to actually convince voters that she’s moved to the center