Their failure to do so is inherently their statement to the decentralised nature of the fediverse, that being „Fuck you people, we are the next reddit, and y’all are just trash”.
Lack of updates on LW. At this moment, LW users still can’t delete media they uploaded. That was a big deal in March 2024: https://tech.michaelaltfield.net/2024/03/04/lemmy-fediverse-gdpr/. Since then, Lemmy allows it since 0.19.4, but LW still runs 0.19.3 (there are plans to update, but at the moment we’re speaking, it’s still not the case)
Smaller instances can have issues to keep up with LW due to its size: https://lemm.ee/post/28755787 . Again, those issues were fixed in 0.19.6, but LW is still on 0.19.3.
I get it but at the end of the day it’s people’s choice, the other instances have to do more to make theirs attractive
(At the end of the day it’s still better to have them here than not have them here on lemmy, That is my thinking*)
That’s kind of a structural problem with the fediverse itself. The whole appeal of social media is interacting with people. Less people, less appeal. The fediverse then takes its inherently smaller pool and splits it across different servers, especially once you account for defederation. Instances like lemmy.world are the natural result. Despite the structural drawbacks, a centralized social media with all users in the same space is inherently more appealing to most users
I want lemmy to be decentralised, so it can benefit from the decentralisation that Lemmy offers. It can be as big as you want, but if only one instance houses 95% of all users, then why even use a decentralised Service when you can just use reddit?
As a metaphor: you don’t make Linux the next big thing by copying windows, because it is not windows. The same way you can’t become the next reddit, if you just copy reddit and hope all the people won’t be confronted with the decentralised nature of the fediverse. You will loose just about all non tech savvy people if (or more when) .world will be banned because they will think that Lemmy as a whole is now banned. And even if they don’t get banned by america, if the mods on world turn out as fascists, or if they turn world into the next reddit and start milking their userbase for money, those non tech savvy people will not know that other instances exist, so they will once again just live in their parallel society on world.
If you want Lemmy to be a centralised website, just go to reddit.
Inertia is a predominant effect for users. Also, a lot of people setup their LW accounts when Sync defaulted to it and have no idea how to migrate as it’s not an option in the app
it would be really nice if Lemmy.world closed their registrations and ability to create new communities so other instances could catch up…
Their failure to do so is inherently their statement to the decentralised nature of the fediverse, that being „Fuck you people, we are the next reddit, and y’all are just trash”.
Heh Heh, Oh wait you are being serious huh
So you DON’T want Lemmy to be as popular/big as reddit ??
Here are the main issues with LW
Slowness for some users: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/36299751
Lack of updates on LW. At this moment, LW users still can’t delete media they uploaded. That was a big deal in March 2024: https://tech.michaelaltfield.net/2024/03/04/lemmy-fediverse-gdpr/. Since then, Lemmy allows it since 0.19.4, but LW still runs 0.19.3 (there are plans to update, but at the moment we’re speaking, it’s still not the case)
Power tripping of some LW mods. You can have a look at [email protected] , with one example: https://lemm.ee/post/49988344/17418849?sort=New
Smaller instances can have issues to keep up with LW due to its size: https://lemm.ee/post/28755787 . Again, those issues were fixed in 0.19.6, but LW is still on 0.19.3.
LW tend to take some debatable policies (https://lemm.ee/post/30444527), the last one being about allowing flat-earthers in the debates: https://lemm.ee/post/52282379. Due to their size, this impacts basically the whole platform.
I get it but at the end of the day it’s people’s choice, the other instances have to do more to make theirs attractive (At the end of the day it’s still better to have them here than not have them here on lemmy, That is my thinking*)
That’s kind of a structural problem with the fediverse itself. The whole appeal of social media is interacting with people. Less people, less appeal. The fediverse then takes its inherently smaller pool and splits it across different servers, especially once you account for defederation. Instances like lemmy.world are the natural result. Despite the structural drawbacks, a centralized social media with all users in the same space is inherently more appealing to most users
I want lemmy to be decentralised, so it can benefit from the decentralisation that Lemmy offers. It can be as big as you want, but if only one instance houses 95% of all users, then why even use a decentralised Service when you can just use reddit?
Say whaaaaaaaat ? What kind of logic is that ?
Am I in reddit ??
link to https://join-lemmy.org/ instead of https://lemmy.world/
Experience from 12 days ago from someone using join-lemmy: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/35480016
In summary: it was quite messy, they ended up on a unmaintained, slow instance and had to change
Yeah, i guess https://join-lemmy.org/ is a project under development.
that would just confuse ppl trying to sign up, theyd think the whole forum is closed
Yes, it would, but it would be a good thing.
As a metaphor: you don’t make Linux the next big thing by copying windows, because it is not windows. The same way you can’t become the next reddit, if you just copy reddit and hope all the people won’t be confronted with the decentralised nature of the fediverse. You will loose just about all non tech savvy people if (or more when) .world will be banned because they will think that Lemmy as a whole is now banned. And even if they don’t get banned by america, if the mods on world turn out as fascists, or if they turn world into the next reddit and start milking their userbase for money, those non tech savvy people will not know that other instances exist, so they will once again just live in their parallel society on world.
If you want Lemmy to be a centralised website, just go to reddit.
No it wouldn’t be really nice, plus Beehaw, ShitJustWorks, Blahaj are big enough
Top 20 most active communities say otherwise: https://lemmyverse.net/communities?order=active
I said “big enough” & no one’s stopping them from migrating to Other instances
Inertia is a predominant effect for users. Also, a lot of people setup their LW accounts when Sync defaulted to it and have no idea how to migrate as it’s not an option in the app
Even then I rather have them here than Reddit, let’s get them on Lemmy & then we’ll deal with fallout
We can work on migration features after we get critical mass (I want Lemmy to grow & Reddit to perish/diminish, that’s all)