• Mayor Poopington
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    171 day ago

    The Nazis had a few ideas for the “Final Solution” of the Jews. The end goal being get them out of the Reich. They tried to send them to Palestine (then under British control) which is a big part of why were stuck with Israel and its fuckery today. Seriously, there was some cooperation between the Jewish militant groups in Palestine and the Nazis. It is seriously a fucked up situation. But, forcing the Jews out of the country didn’t work very well so the Nazis started rounding up and killing them.

    • Flying Squid
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      191 day ago

      Seriously, there was some cooperation between the Jewish militant groups in Palestine and the Nazis.

      Guess who was in a Jewish militant group in British-occupied Palestine?

      Netanyahu’s parents. They changed their name from something Polish to the much more semitic Netanyahu and emigrated in Palestine in the 1920s with the express idea of creating a Jewish state.

      Netanyahu and his family did not suffer from the Holocaust, they benefited from it.

      • Mayor Poopington
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        71 day ago

        Ugh. I knew they were an old family, just didn’t know it was that bad.

        • Flying Squid
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          Far too few people know and I don’t blame them or you for not knowing because it’s in Netanyahu’s interest to make people think he’s also a victim and the ever-compliant media plays along.

          The only reason I even know is that one day I decided to look up his family and see what happened to them during WWII. So if I hadn’t, sort of on a whim, taken the initiative to look it up, I would be as in the dark about it as most people.

          And I wish there were a way for me to let people know beyond “talk about it on internet forums,” but I don’t have that sort of influence.

          • Mayor Poopington
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            322 hours ago

            It’s not even a widely known fact amongst Jews. For the record, I was raised Jewish (don’t really practice, not a big organized religion fan anyways) and I went on birthright back in January '20. Nothing was ever mentioned about the Netanyahu history aside from some stuff about his brother, who is widely regarded over there as a war hero. I know there’s a bit of controversy over his death but not sure on details. I should really go research that.

            • Flying Squid
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              222 hours ago

              I’m also a non-religious Jew, so yeah, I get that.

    • @[email protected]
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      11 day ago

      In mitigation, much of that “cooperation” was in convincing (bribing) Nazis to send Jews to Israel rather than murdering them.

      And it’s worth keeping in mind that there were many Zionist groups operating in Palestine at the time, ranging from inclusive socialist idealists to full-scale ethno-religious chauvinists committing acts of terror against the British and the Palestinians.

    • @cm0002OP
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      1 day ago

      Iirc, they also sent them into a bunch of countries in a lot of the EU, which worked alright…until they started occupying most of the EU countries then they went into “the final solution”

      • Mayor Poopington
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        31 day ago

        Thank you, yes. By the time they settled on concentration camps, the Nazis where on like the Final Final Final Solution

        • WideEyedStupid
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          Actually, concentration camps came very early. And the Nazis were very open about these concentration camps, because they figured they would serve as a deterrent. However, they weren’t initially used to house Jewish people, but mostly for political opponents, like socialists. Later came the intellectuals, journalists, teachers, scientists, etc. And of course other undesirables like gay people.

          Extermination camps, however, were a relatively late addition. And they were kept secret. The systemic extermination of Jewish people began after the Wannsee Conference in 1942, where Nazi leadership discussed the Final Solution to the Jewish Problem. Under Operation Reinhard they started building the six extermination camps:

          The first 4 camps were built specifically and solely to kill people.