The something different is, trump is not providing lip service and expediting what is already being done. It was gonna happen either way. If you’re kill them torturing with false promises seems just as cruel. Biden just sent another 8billion in arms at the beginning of this month. I mean c’mon
Trump is about to delete Gaza and the West Bank off of the world map. Biden was far from perfect but verbally was never in support of that.
The more I engage with “protest voters” the more I wonder if, for whatever reason, they are actually accelerationists at heart. Which is ethically dubious as their action (or lack thereof) has accelerated a genocide.
I’m vehemently against aiding genocide. Period. Biden was complicit and we protested. Now trump is complicit and we still need to and continue to protest.
trump has a lot of aid to provide to get there. I’m sure he will get there eventually. If only there was someone who could have done something sooner…hell it could have had an impact on voters, if not at least lessen the damage. But I suppose it’s better to not learn anything here and complain about people who find supporting genocide inexcusable.
It’s ok though, you can come out and protest with us still. We’d like to have you
Maybe they are going to bake cakes with the munitions?…or be used to rebuild infrastructure with them. How many bombs does it take to rebuild a hospital?? lol
I swear if you cross one more red line…(Wags finger)
I suppose we’ll never know if Biden wasn’t ok with Israel’s leaked plans, even though he continued to aid an open genocide up until his last moments of office. Please, you can’t be serious here.
The something different is, trump is not providing lip service and expediting what is already being done. It was gonna happen either way. If you’re kill them torturing with false promises seems just as cruel. Biden just sent another 8billion in arms at the beginning of this month. I mean c’mon
Biden and the democrats supported a two state solution. Trump is going give the West Bank and Gaza to Israel.
Biden’s actions don’t seem to agree with that…
Trump is about to delete Gaza and the West Bank off of the world map. Biden was far from perfect but verbally was never in support of that.
The more I engage with “protest voters” the more I wonder if, for whatever reason, they are actually accelerationists at heart. Which is ethically dubious as their action (or lack thereof) has accelerated a genocide.
Aiding the genocide has accelerated the genocide. No gymnastics to see that
Dude…. Just take the mask off and be done with it. It’s not like everyone doesn’t already know.
I’m vehemently against aiding genocide. Period. Biden was complicit and we protested. Now trump is complicit and we still need to and continue to protest.
Suit yourself. I gave you an off-ramp, but I can’t force you to take it. Just know that it’ll be there in the future should you need it.
As Trump has shown he will do. Above and beyond anything Biden has said or done.
trump has a lot of aid to provide to get there. I’m sure he will get there eventually. If only there was someone who could have done something sooner…hell it could have had an impact on voters, if not at least lessen the damage. But I suppose it’s better to not learn anything here and complain about people who find supporting genocide inexcusable.
It’s ok though, you can come out and protest with us still. We’d like to have you
Prove it.
Can you prove it wasn’t? c’mon Edit: Jan 4, 2025 Joe Biden sent another 8 billion in arms. He didn’t have to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leahy_Law
That’s not how the burden of proof works. You made the claim, it’s up to you to show it wasn’t a lie.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)
It’s also a bad faith question to prove someone’s thoughts.
Let me ask you this, what proof would you accept?
Not the person your arguing with.
How can I know what I would accept unless I saw it?
But thata exactly the point. Your not willing to accept any proof. So why should someone bother?
It’s bad faith arguing.
I know exactly what proof it’d take to convince me the world is flat. And it’s a simple explanation for all current observable effects.
No one has yet.
So asking for proof, AND setting the bar of that I’d accept is part of the burden of proof.
I am absolutely willing to accept proof and please do not make false accusations about me.
And I do not know what proof it would take me to convince me the world is flat either.
I’m not as smart as you, but I can’t help that.
I know I’m stupid but that’s not a reason to say things about me that aren’t true.
Just admit your not accepting proof.
You took someone’s proof, and just stuck your head in the sand without actually addressing anything.
That’s what makes this bad faith. It has nothing to do with smarts.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/world/biden-administration-notifies-congress-of-planned-8-billion-weapons-sale-to-israel
That is not in any way, shape or form proof that Biden would want Gaza emptied of Palestinians like Trump.
No one is denying he sold arms to Israel. No one is justifying it.
That was not what you claimed. You claimed he would have done exactly what Trump is doing.
Prove it.
Maybe they are going to bake cakes with the munitions?…or be used to rebuild infrastructure with them. How many bombs does it take to rebuild a hospital?? lol
You just saying things isn’t proof that Biden had the same plans as Trump. Sorry.
I swear if you cross one more red line…(Wags finger)
I suppose we’ll never know if Biden wasn’t ok with Israel’s leaked plans, even though he continued to aid an open genocide up until his last moments of office. Please, you can’t be serious here.