Although personally in favor of Palestinian independence and critical of war crimes committed by Israel in its siege of Gaza, I attempted to explain in a back-and-forth discussion with a user (only afterwards learning was one of the community’s two moderators) why protest voting in the 2024 election to “punish” the democrats in favor of the republicans harmed the ultimate interest of reigning in Israeli violence in Palestine.
To further emphasize the damage caused by such a protest vote, I argued that not only is Palestine worse off with Trump elected instead of Harris, but as are a myriad of other social issues. The other user disagreed, arguing that Trump’s return to office facilitated the ceasefire, rather than my argument that Netanyahu deliberately delayed it to help Trump get elected.
After my fourth reply post in a reply chain that stemmed from my initial reply to the moderator’s comment, I was banned from [email protected]. Having at no point advocated in favor of the violence perpetuated by Israel in Gaza, I think the ban was unjustified, and demonstrates a bad precedent for maintaining echo chambers of moderator opinions, rather than communities that foster discussion.
Consider me uneducated.
I’ve always thought “one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter” is worth considering.
Oct 7th is hard to parse as a justified retaliation. But what does a justified attack even look like?
Is Palestine’s only moral choice to stand their ground?
It’s just a shitty situation. They don’t have the power to be able to save themselves. And no one from the outside is coming to help them, while they’re dying one by one, families and soldiers, mothers and kids.
Killing, raping, and kidnapping a bunch of people at a music festival is never going to make you a freedom fighter. Not least of which because Israel is going to be ecstatic that you did it, and milk it as far as they can to get away with what they wanted to do anyway, and then hope you do it again so they can “retaliate” and keep cycling the machine. But I can’t really answer your question about what I think they should do. I think someone should come from outside, and help them. There’s a whole damn world that has that option.