yeah I reckon we’re about to see, after the deportations of immigrants and the sudden labor shortage caused by it, a lot of other Americans who are also considered “undesirables” being voluntold to get busy pickin’ or get busy dying. We already force our prisoners to do slave labor, and you know what a hate-boner Republicans have for prisoners – how do you think that stacks up against their hate boner for trans people? gay people? Or, why, just anyone who doesn’t “vote correctly”?
the deportations of immigrants and the sudden labor shortage caused by it
I think you meant, "the round up of suspected immigrants (but we’re not real careful about that), followed by the simultaneous difficulties of returning them to their homelands and national labor shortages; then the increasing “tax burden” of feeding and housing the immigrants with the continuing labor shortage leading to the “obvious and natural solution” of having the people awaiting deportation work in those understaffed jobs.
Which, if you know any history, is how Germany ended up with concentration camps.
yeah I just figured I’d prattled on long enough. I’ve watched enough documentaries on WWII and the holocaust to know how it started, and I’m fucking terrified.
I’ve already seen some of the Fox crowd calling for periods of national service, arguing that a year of “real work” would be good for today’s lazy, screen-addicted youth. I can’t see them getting an actual draft reinstated, but I can definitely see them making federal student loans contingent on “National Service.” That would have the added benefit of making old people and rich people functionally exempt.
Great. I have plenty of money and hate contributing to society in any meaningful manner – I consume only. I’ll manage the crop pickers from my phone, though. When do you start?
What about the overwhelming majority if welfare recipients who do not live near where food is farmed?
Should we never permit people on welfare to have the chance to improve their lot in life because having to do farm labor all day will stop most from being able to do anything else.
Because again most do not live anywhere near these fields. Why should welfare recipients be slaves or less well paid not actual employees to for-profit companies?
You are proposing a horrible solution. This is not going to fix any issue and will cause so many more problems
I doubt ‘if they want to’ will be taken seriously from the start. Authoritarian regimes love throwing out meaningless restrictions that they’ll never actually follow themselves.
Why do I suspect they’re going to follow a similar model that the ussr used with the gulags - only take the absolute worst aspects of what is ascribed to communism…
yeah I reckon we’re about to see, after the deportations of immigrants and the sudden labor shortage caused by it, a lot of other Americans who are also considered “undesirables” being voluntold to get busy pickin’ or get busy dying. We already force our prisoners to do slave labor, and you know what a hate-boner Republicans have for prisoners – how do you think that stacks up against their hate boner for trans people? gay people? Or, why, just anyone who doesn’t “vote correctly”?
I think you meant, "the round up of suspected immigrants (but we’re not real careful about that), followed by the simultaneous difficulties of returning them to their homelands and national labor shortages; then the increasing “tax burden” of feeding and housing the immigrants with the continuing labor shortage leading to the “obvious and natural solution” of having the people awaiting deportation work in those understaffed jobs.
Which, if you know any history, is how Germany ended up with concentration camps.
There already looking at land Texas offered them.
yeah I just figured I’d prattled on long enough. I’ve watched enough documentaries on WWII and the holocaust to know how it started, and I’m fucking terrified.
I’ve already seen some of the Fox crowd calling for periods of national service, arguing that a year of “real work” would be good for today’s lazy, screen-addicted youth. I can’t see them getting an actual draft reinstated, but I can definitely see them making federal student loans contingent on “National Service.” That would have the added benefit of making old people and rich people functionally exempt.
Only for the young people of course, them republican boomers already put in a honest days work. Uphill both ways.
Why can’t you see them getting the draft reinstated?
Rich donors would want their kids exempted.
That was the case before, see “Fortunate son” the song.
I heard, there was a name for such a idea
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What was it again?
☝🏻😃ah!
Concentration camps
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Great. I have plenty of money and hate contributing to society in any meaningful manner – I consume only. I’ll manage the crop pickers from my phone, though. When do you start?
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Which means what in your mind? It’s not as if many techbros are all that useful or cannot be immediately replaced.
What about the overwhelming majority if welfare recipients who do not live near where food is farmed?
Should we never permit people on welfare to have the chance to improve their lot in life because having to do farm labor all day will stop most from being able to do anything else.
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Because again most do not live anywhere near these fields. Why should welfare recipients be slaves or less well paid not actual employees to for-profit companies?
You are proposing a horrible solution. This is not going to fix any issue and will cause so many more problems
Most welfare recipients do already work. You have to be disabled to be on welfare and not working.
Prison labor volunteers probably.
Guilty of the crime of being poor most of the time.
Guilty of being addicted to the drugs the government has been feeding to your community.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/rfk-jr-says-he-ll-send-people-taking-adderall-to-labor-camps/ar-BB1qDeks
Those fuckers keep delivering on their campaign promises.
Key part of his statement. Hopefully it’s not one that gets conveniently dropped later as our labor demand skyrockets.
I doubt ‘if they want to’ will be taken seriously from the start. Authoritarian regimes love throwing out meaningless restrictions that they’ll never actually follow themselves.
Right. The “hopefully” is maybe a pipe dream, considering the incentives.
Why do I suspect they’re going to follow a similar model that the ussr used with the gulags - only take the absolute worst aspects of what is ascribed to communism…
I think they’re going for less a USSR look, and more a PRC approach, or even the Khmer Rouge