• @pjwestin
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    03 days ago

    So, when leftists don’t vote for the party, they’re being unreasonable, whiney children who are enabling facism. But when minority voters don’t vote for the Democrats, they’re the helpless victims of fascist propaganda? Cool, I guess we’ve reached the racist, “savior,” trope portion of the liberal coping process. If only those poor minorities hadn’t been led astray by all those leftists and fascists, right Pug?

    • @PugJesus
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      03 days ago

      So, when leftists don’t vote for the party, they’re being unreasonable, whiney children who are enabling facism. But when minority voters don’t vote for the Democrats, they’re the helpless victims of fascist propaganda?

      No, they’re both doing the same thing, for the same reason. Sorry that minorities being people is such a radical idea for you. If you get me a pedestal, I can stand on it for you to worship me.

      If only those poor minorities hadn’t been led astray by all those leftists and fascists, right Pug?

      Bruh, you were the one who brought up the minority vote, and you did so as a ‘refutation’ to the idea that letting Trump into power is something that is going to kill minorities. I pointed out that people voting against their interest means nothing. Sorry that that was too complex for you to parse.

      • @pjwestin
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        13 days ago

        No, they’re both doing the same thing, for the same reason.

        Yes, but you’re framing one as victims, while the other you’re treating with contempt. Might want to examine what you’ve internalized that makes you feel that way.

        Bruh, you were the one who brought up the minority vote, and you did so as a ‘refutation’ to the idea that letting Trump into power is something that is going to kill minorities.

        A) I brought up minority groups abandoning Harris because you brought up how people who didn’t vote for her were betraying minorities. B) I never said Trump wasn’t going to get minorities killed. He’s gonna kill a lot of people, and I’m sure disproportionate numbers of minorities will wind up dead. C) If this many people, across all demographics, decided they were either better off voting for the fascist or indifferent to the fascists victory, what does that tell you about how Democratic leadership is going?

        Anyway, good luck mulling that stuff over, Pug.

        • @PugJesus
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          13 days ago

          Yes, but you’re framing one as victims, while the other you’re treating with contempt. Might want to examine what you’ve internalized that makes you feel that way.

          It’s framing them as victims to say that propaganda works?

          Do you… do you think that I believe that left-abstainers flipped a coin one morning and decided to go against their stated principles?

          A) I brought up minority groups abandoning Harris because you brought up how people who didn’t vote for her were betraying minorities.

          Okay. And?

          Again, saying that propaganda works means nothing. “Jews for Hitler” didn’t mean that Nazi voters and apathetic-abstainers weren’t betraying Jewish folk by letting the Nazis into power, and that Nazi voters were betraying Jewish folk wouldn’t have changed if “Jews for Hitler” were one million voters strong instead of one hundred strong.

          B) I never said Trump wasn’t going to get minorities killed. He’s gonna kill a lot of people, and I’m sure disproportionate numbers of minorities will wind up dead.

          … and you think, then, that enabling this person who’s going to get large amounts of minorities killed who otherwise would not be is… what?

          Some kind of service to us?

          C) If this many people, across all demographics, decided they were either better off voting for the fascist or indifferent to the fascists victory, what does that tell you about how Democratic leadership is going?

          First and foremost, it says that many people, across all demographics, are fascists or indifferent to fascists.

          That Dems are incompetent is true, but hardly the core problem; 2/3s of the country is okay with fascism.

          If the only two people running are Mr. Magoo and Adolf Hitler, and a voter thinks it’s acceptable to let Hitler win, that voter is a fascist or a fascist enabler. End of. And that is not some minor thing, some little oopsie, but a major problem.

          • @LengAwaits
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            If the only two people running are Mr. Magoo and Adolf Hitler, and a voter thinks it’s acceptable to let Hitler win, that voter is a fascist or a fascist enabler. End of. And that is not some minor thing, some little oopsie, but a major problem.

            What if they’d been subjected to a “Fascist propaganda” campaign, as you called it?

            • @PugJesus
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              23 days ago

              What if they’d been subjected to a “Fascist propaganda” campaign, as you called it?

              A core point of fascist propaganda is to ensure that a suitable proportion of the population ends up as fascist enablers.