It isn’t about race. It’s about making sure that all perspectives are taken into account when making a decision. That’s it. The think tanks against it are against having rules put upon them. Removing DEI is the same as stripping out market regulation.
DEI also includes protecting people with disabilities, and veterans from getting skipped over in the hiring process. Those have nothing to do with race. Do veterans deserve to get shit canned too?
That would be awesome but it doesn’t address the issue unless you want to pretend lack of education and healthcare are the major barries holding women and minorities back in the workforce.
Equality and equity are not the same thing, systemic issues are baked into our laws and policies. Mostly geared at the lower socioeconomic status members of society.
Which tend to be minority members due to the very same systemic issues.
Some people need a different sized ladder to get to the same position.
Because it’s bullshit. It’s saying these disenfranchised people need help to better themselves and ignores the systems in place that work directly against them achieving success.
The honest take on DEI (which I think is total horse shit) is racially discriminating “the other way” to make up for the past.
One big part about these discussions is some people say that racism has power as a component, i.e. black people can’t be racist. This take is what enables them to sit in a committee and say “we have two equally qualified candidates, so let’s give the job to the black one” and say that with a straight face without feeling like they racially discriminated, even though the DEFINITION of racial discrimination is making a decision based solely on race.
I think, “state approved racism” is the best definition. God forbid to be a person from Eastern Europe: even though you have a background akin to middle East (mostly democracy and wealth-wise), you’ll get treated as a fucking King Charles in US because of your skin color. Check my privelege? I didn’t have any to begin with!
I mean given the USA’s history with black slavery, it’s not exactly surprising their focus is on black people specifically.
Unfortunately, Europe doesn’t do much better in that area, although it should know better. Hearing Germans talk about how they have to support Israel then turn around to talk shit about Poland getting money from them is infuriating.
DEI is state approved racism designed to replace non approved racism.
You can believe one is worse than the other.
I believe both are shit.
It isn’t about race. It’s about making sure that all perspectives are taken into account when making a decision. That’s it. The think tanks against it are against having rules put upon them. Removing DEI is the same as stripping out market regulation.
DEI is literally oversight to ensure that there ISNT racism . For example, it includes:
Outreach programs to talk to people in underrepresented communities to tell them that opportunities exist
Avoiding biased language and assumptions in the hiring process that would negatively impact people of certain demographics
Hiring authorities that prevent bias against the disabled and veterans
Audits and data to see if an organization has decided to just be racist and reject non-white applicants
Your argument is, we should remove people’s protections because if we taught everyone better they wouldnt be discriminatory.
wtf do you think DEI is?? have you never sat through a training? it’s the most boring thing ever
DEI also includes protecting people with disabilities, and veterans from getting skipped over in the hiring process. Those have nothing to do with race. Do veterans deserve to get shit canned too?
What’s your answer to this then?
Free education and healthcare for everyone, regardless of background, ethnicity and gender.
That would be awesome but it doesn’t address the issue unless you want to pretend lack of education and healthcare are the major barries holding women and minorities back in the workforce.
Women and minorities do not have the same access to education and healthcare.
I will admit that it is not the immediate band aid on the cancerous seeping wound DEI is.
It’s something that will take time.
They don’t have the same access to most shit white men do, that’s why things like DEI exist.
it can’t confront the root causes and still operate under capitalism.
DEI is just as useful as Unions at getting people a fair deal and just as useless at fixing the reason for their existence.
That’s great.
Now do equal opportunities for employment.
And how do we do that?
Equality and equity are not the same thing, systemic issues are baked into our laws and policies. Mostly geared at the lower socioeconomic status members of society.
Which tend to be minority members due to the very same systemic issues.
Some people need a different sized ladder to get to the same position.
Edit: an extra word
Progressive taxation.
Damn, bet nobody was expecting this reply!
I agree completely.
Because it’s bullshit. It’s saying these disenfranchised people need help to better themselves and ignores the systems in place that work directly against them achieving success.
It also has nothing to do with DEI, which is generally about workplace culture and hiring practices.
It seems a lot of people are confusing DEI for affirmative action.
Required too.
The honest take on DEI (which I think is total horse shit) is racially discriminating “the other way” to make up for the past.
One big part about these discussions is some people say that racism has power as a component, i.e. black people can’t be racist. This take is what enables them to sit in a committee and say “we have two equally qualified candidates, so let’s give the job to the black one” and say that with a straight face without feeling like they racially discriminated, even though the DEFINITION of racial discrimination is making a decision based solely on race.
Ok cracker.
I think, “state approved racism” is the best definition. God forbid to be a person from Eastern Europe: even though you have a background akin to middle East (mostly democracy and wealth-wise), you’ll get treated as a fucking King Charles in US because of your skin color. Check my privelege? I didn’t have any to begin with!
I mean given the USA’s history with black slavery, it’s not exactly surprising their focus is on black people specifically.
Unfortunately, Europe doesn’t do much better in that area, although it should know better. Hearing Germans talk about how they have to support Israel then turn around to talk shit about Poland getting money from them is infuriating.