I don’t know if I’m opening a can of worms here, and I’m still trying to backtrack a lot of history where I was tuning everything out. I keep seeing random swipes at Signal (or the representatives (?)), and I was wondering whether they are founded or just lies.Is it another situation like Lemmy where we just “take the technology and move on”? Thanks!

  • @Hawke
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    The thing is I have yet to see any reasonable alternatives.

    Threema is the closest but it’s not free-of-charge, so a non-starter for most of my friends.

    The others are controlled by Russia (telegram) or Meta. What else even is viable?

    • Jeena
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      I’m trying to move my family to Matrix with a self hosted server. It’s not easy though because of bugs in it.

    • baltakatei
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      Session, an Australian fork of Signal with onion routing and no phone number requirement, seems promising.

      • @evujumenuk
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        Session disables forward secrecy for no reason.

        Personally, I assume it’s a honeypot.

        • BNE
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          And it’s Australian - which means all it’s staff are obligated by law to place backdoors into their software for essentially whoever asks provided they flash a badge. If you don’t, it’s a one way trip to gaol.

          If you trigger a canary in the coalmine somewhere, gaol.

          Speaking as one - don’t trust Australians with your security. Ever.

      • @felixwhynot
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        This also disables notification text which is a good choice IMHO as those can be provided by Apple/Google to law enforcement

        Didn’t know it was a Signal fork, interesting