I am saying that Democrats perform better with a progressive message than a centrist one. If you don’t believe me, you’re welcome to look up the party platforms and stump speeches from these years and compare which candidates were pushing leftist platforms and which were centrist. You can compare Biden’s BBB plan, which contains child tax credit extensions, universal pre-k, ACA subsidies, affordable housing, and dozens of other progressive programs to the, “economic opportunity,” platform of business loans and first-time homebuyer’s credits that Harris ran on. You can look up Obama’s stump speeches regarding homeowner bailouts and compare them to the HAMP program he actually put in place.
The evidence is pretty clear; voters go to Democrats when they offer a strong, progressive vision for the country, and they abandon them when they pursue centrist policies. Yet liberals like Harris and Clinton both lost by courting, “moderate,” Republicans. They’ve convinced themselves to ignore the facts and follow the, “common sense,” idea that they need to move further towards the center. Even you have dismissed every piece of information I’ve presented you and instead continue to insist, without evidence, that being is a liberal centrist is the best strategy. This is why liberals continue to defeat themselves.
This is conjecture, not evidence, but if leftists really are that powerful of a voting block, that seems like further proof that the Democrats should adopt leftist policies.
I could ask you to explain what you think I’m not reading, but I think we both know this is just a ridiculous cop-out, and you simply don’t want to engage with facts that contradict your worldview.
Are you actually using Obama as an example of a far left candidate and you think Biden was progressive yet Harris was centrist?
This is why I lean more and more liberal because leftists spend more time defeating themselves instead of building a movement.
I am saying that Democrats perform better with a progressive message than a centrist one. If you don’t believe me, you’re welcome to look up the party platforms and stump speeches from these years and compare which candidates were pushing leftist platforms and which were centrist. You can compare Biden’s BBB plan, which contains child tax credit extensions, universal pre-k, ACA subsidies, affordable housing, and dozens of other progressive programs to the, “economic opportunity,” platform of business loans and first-time homebuyer’s credits that Harris ran on. You can look up Obama’s stump speeches regarding homeowner bailouts and compare them to the HAMP program he actually put in place.
The evidence is pretty clear; voters go to Democrats when they offer a strong, progressive vision for the country, and they abandon them when they pursue centrist policies. Yet liberals like Harris and Clinton both lost by courting, “moderate,” Republicans. They’ve convinced themselves to ignore the facts and follow the, “common sense,” idea that they need to move further towards the center. Even you have dismissed every piece of information I’ve presented you and instead continue to insist, without evidence, that being is a liberal centrist is the best strategy. This is why liberals continue to defeat themselves.
Clinton and Harris lost because leftist voters are fickle and listen to republican propaganda.
Also there’s an element of democratic voters who are sexist and racist that didn’t turn out to vote.
This is conjecture, not evidence, but if leftists really are that powerful of a voting block, that seems like further proof that the Democrats should adopt leftist policies.
Sorry but there’s no reason to continue this conversation if you’re not going to read what I write.
I could ask you to explain what you think I’m not reading, but I think we both know this is just a ridiculous cop-out, and you simply don’t want to engage with facts that contradict your worldview.
It’s not though, I listened to your comments and responded but you don’t give me the same courtesy.