What’s great about this, and Stephen Fry is brilliant, is not that he’s absolving Musk, or that he’s criticizing Tesla, but that it is an argument likely leading to Elon Musk protesting,

‘No, my cars are good enough that I can be a Nazi!’

  • @[email protected]OP
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    A small country took on the ENTIRE FUCKING WORLD (TWICE) and very nearly won. The second time with a lunatic at the helm.

    What does it take to impress you? To what would you assign their disturbing success?

    • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost
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      74 hours ago

      Nazis took on world in one war, and lost.

      “WE ARE THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD! THE PUREST OF THE PURE! STRONGEST OF THE STRONG!”

      [Fights one (1) war]

      “Guess we’ll shoot ourselves in a bunker and lose in a big lopsided defeat.”

    • Flying Squid
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      “Very nearly winning” is called losing.

    • @Maggoty
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      At no point did they “nearly win” against the world. In World War 1 they made desperate attempts to break out of trench warfare because the blockade was obliterating their wartime economy. In World War 2 they were cooked the second they invaded the USSR and the USA landed in the UK. Those were unwinnable areas for them. Even if they eventually managed to wear down the British, the Americans were right behind them manufacturing 100 tanks a day and 15 Aircraft Carriers in 1943 alone. Which means all of those tanks are getting to the European theater.

      And once the USSR got it’s production under way the Germans were on the defensive all the way back to Berlin.

      • Flying Squid
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        Also, they weren’t Nazis in World War I.

    • @gift_of_gab
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      and very nearly won.

      What the actual fuck are you talking about?

      • Flying Squid
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        Didn’t you know? They had a 3-point lead and the allies rebounded in the last minute or two! If it wasn’t for the ref calling a foul on Himmler…

    • davel [he/him]
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      24 hours ago

      What is this, the Übermensch Expanded Universe? Maybe actually learn history.

    • NaevaTheRat [she/her]
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      218 hours ago

      Um it did not take the entire world, for a lot of their early success most of the fighting was against countries that were unprepared and devastated after ww1.

    • @[email protected]
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      4810 hours ago

      Small country? They were a highly industrialized, highly educated and still quite materially wealthy colonial power going into the wars. They didn’t need to be competent. Enough people went along with them and there was plenty of residual wealth to burn on the war machine.

      You don’t need to be an architect to burn down a building.

      • Flying Squid
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        It was also one of the largest nations in Europe, if not the largest after the annexations (i.e. before the war began officially), and their population was almost 80 million in 1939.