Katyń, for the most obvious example. And yeah, day and night - deportation, work camps, beatings. I absolve neither side of crime, and I definitely see Nazis as worse, but they were both murdering poles left and right. And the Polish goverment fought for Poland while hiding, cooperated with other goverments, tried it’s damn hardest to get Poland back - what are you talking about?
Except for Soviet Starvation of 46’. Also shortages of food and weird politic of exporting more grain than was deemed possible was still under USSR. And I can’t care less about US.
I lack sources I can point you out to. This is mostly something you hear concrete examples for from your family when you grow up. It’s, however, failure on my part for lacking any resources I can point to. WIll have to search for them when I have time.
I admit I had to learn more about USSR during our convo. And however much I hate admitting this, it would me insincere of me to not admit USSR had more sensible politics internally than I thought when it comes to food. They were, however, still insanely brutal and sadistic regime while dealing with anything comparable to opposition to their goals. So yeah, thanks for broadening my horizons, but please never state USSR was in any way or form good guys. They massacred, murdered, invigilated and abused, not unlike Nazis, at least in Poland.
Katyn is debated, actually. There were Nazi bullet casings that predated any chance for the Soviets to come accross them, children were included in the victims (something the Nazis did regularly and was practically unheard of for the Red Army), and the bodies were stacked in a manner the Nazis were known to do. The origin of this massacre as a Red Army crime? Joseph Goebbels, I kid you not. As for the Polish government, I wouldn’t say it “tried its hardest.” The results were clear the second the Nazis set foot on Poland, either all of it would go to Nazi Germany or some would go to the Soviets if they got involved.
1946 was a direct result of World War II, surely the year can tell you that alone, right? The Nazis scorched and burned everything they could, 50% of housing was destroyed by their genocidal invasion. Food stabilized as they built back.
Fair enough.
As for your closing paragraph, I recommend you read Blackshirts and Reds. The Nazis and the Communists are in no way comparable, and doing so originates with Double Genocide Theory, a form of Nazi Apologia and Holocaust Trivialization. Out of all the major world powers, the Soviets were by far the best and most progressive, and it isn’t close. From Nazi Germany inventing industrialized murder and trying to colonize the world, to Britain intentionally starving 4 million Bengalis, to French colonialism of Algeria, Vietnam, and more, to US colonization of Cuba, genocide against Palestinians, Koreans, Iraqis, Vietnamese, and working directly with the Nazis before and after World War 2, and more, the Soviets were consistently the most progressive and most correct.
I admit I had to learn more about USSR during our convo. And however much I hate admitting this, it would me insincere of me to not admit USSR had more sensible politics internally than I thought when it comes to food. They were, however, still insanely brutal and sadistic regime while dealing with anything comparable to opposition to their goals. So yeah, thanks for broadening my horizons, but please never state USSR was in any way or form good guys. They massacred, murdered, invigilated and abused, not unlike Nazis, at least in Poland.
Katyn is debated, actually. There were Nazi bullet casings that predated any chance for the Soviets to come accross them, children were included in the victims (something the Nazis did regularly and was practically unheard of for the Red Army), and the bodies were stacked in a manner the Nazis were known to do. The origin of this massacre as a Red Army crime? Joseph Goebbels, I kid you not. As for the Polish government, I wouldn’t say it “tried its hardest.” The results were clear the second the Nazis set foot on Poland, either all of it would go to Nazi Germany or some would go to the Soviets if they got involved.
1946 was a direct result of World War II, surely the year can tell you that alone, right? The Nazis scorched and burned everything they could, 50% of housing was destroyed by their genocidal invasion. Food stabilized as they built back.
Fair enough.
As for your closing paragraph, I recommend you read Blackshirts and Reds. The Nazis and the Communists are in no way comparable, and doing so originates with Double Genocide Theory, a form of Nazi Apologia and Holocaust Trivialization. Out of all the major world powers, the Soviets were by far the best and most progressive, and it isn’t close. From Nazi Germany inventing industrialized murder and trying to colonize the world, to Britain intentionally starving 4 million Bengalis, to French colonialism of Algeria, Vietnam, and more, to US colonization of Cuba, genocide against Palestinians, Koreans, Iraqis, Vietnamese, and working directly with the Nazis before and after World War 2, and more, the Soviets were consistently the most progressive and most correct.