Of course they should. And people who do Nazi expressions on TV should suffer the expected social consequences, because people should be responsible for the things they say and do.
Are you gonna defend everyone who expresses a “history of fucking your mom” this way, too?
Or are you going to admit that appealing to freedom of expression isn’t really an argument in defense of a persistent pattern of behavior that includes but did not culminate with a literal Nazi salute?
It’s not an opinion to say something never happened. Do you think arguing the Holocaust is a myth is just a matter of opinion, and everyone should be entitled to talk about how fake the Holocaust is and how Jews are the devil actually at all times, because that’s just freedom of speech?
People are entitled to an opinion. People are not entitled to lie in public to spread hate. You are lying in public to spread hate right now. Stop it.
I’d argue that whilst it is the source of the debate that I’m currently only interested in the tangential discussion regarding freedom of speech and whether it is ok to label someone a Nazi because you disagree with them.
You can discuss Musk with other people, I’m not interested.
it’s a very simple concept at the end of the day. a person is their thoughts, words, and actions. elon musk has nazi thoughts, says nazi words, and takes nazi actions. if we can’t agree that musk is a nazi, it means we don’t stand on the common ground of reality. it also increases the likelihood that you’re a nazi a thousand fold.
I’m not arguing about Musk here, I’m arguing whether people should be allowed to express themselves.
Of course they should. And people who do Nazi expressions on TV should suffer the expected social consequences, because people should be responsible for the things they say and do.
Are you gonna defend everyone who expresses a “history of fucking your mom” this way, too?
Or are you going to admit that appealing to freedom of expression isn’t really an argument in defense of a persistent pattern of behavior that includes but did not culminate with a literal Nazi salute?
As well as every person who saw him do it. It’s clear as fucking day and you’re lying about it. Why?
It’s an opinion. I’m not saying it was, I’m not saying it wasn’t, I’m expressing some level of doubt, nothing more nothing less.
But I’m not here to talk about musk’s salute, I’m here to say people are entitled to an opinion.
It’s not an opinion to say something never happened. Do you think arguing the Holocaust is a myth is just a matter of opinion, and everyone should be entitled to talk about how fake the Holocaust is and how Jews are the devil actually at all times, because that’s just freedom of speech?
People are entitled to an opinion. People are not entitled to lie in public to spread hate. You are lying in public to spread hate right now. Stop it.
I’m not getting drawn in to the debate of wether it was or wasn’t.
I’m defending people’s rights to have an opinion without being labeled a Nazi by default because it trivialises the awful crimes commited in WWII.
Denying the holocaust is a crime in some countries, and with good reason. Let me know when we’re not allowed to discuss the actions of Musk.
That is the entire topic of discussion. Why don’t you go take a break, you seem to be having a hard time.
I’d argue that whilst it is the source of the debate that I’m currently only interested in the tangential discussion regarding freedom of speech and whether it is ok to label someone a Nazi because you disagree with them.
You can discuss Musk with other people, I’m not interested.
I can tell, you’d rather argue he’s not a Nazi without discussing his Nazi salute.
You don’t give a fuck about freedom of speech.
I’m done here, have a nice day.
In that case, yes, it’s OK to call a nazi nazi.
it’s a very simple concept at the end of the day. a person is their thoughts, words, and actions. elon musk has nazi thoughts, says nazi words, and takes nazi actions. if we can’t agree that musk is a nazi, it means we don’t stand on the common ground of reality. it also increases the likelihood that you’re a nazi a thousand fold.
good for you for standing up to this nazi.